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Move over Roger Bannister, Muhammad Ali and Arthur Ashe, Dwyane Wade in da house

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by heyabbott, Dec 4, 2006.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Here is the link for M & MD interview with Terry

    http://www.wfan.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=180799
     
  2. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Move over Roger Bannister, Muhammad Ali and Arthur Ashe, Dwyane Wade in da h

    Wow. Just wow. Normally, I'd have automatic doubts about your authenticity. Something tells me you are for real, though.

    Boom, thanks for the link to that audio. He comes off really poorly. They held his feet to the fire about whether he makes editorial decisions based on marketing considerations and he was stammering all over the place.

    Oh my lord... Early in the interview, he starts babbling out of nowhere about how they misspelled his name on the TV simulcast... then late in the interview, Francesa says something like, "By the way, Yes! wanted us to tell you that your name is spelled wrong on SI's website. That's where they got the spelling from." Too funny.
     
  4. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    It should indeed.

    To quote Kenickie and the rest of the T-Birds, "tell me more, tell me more!"
     
  5. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    That radio link is painful to listen to.
     
  6. Jones

    Jones Active Member

    He sounds like John Goodman.
     
  7. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    You just know Francesa is hitting the mute button and sniggering, 'Ten bucks says I make him cry...'
     
  8. friend of the friendless

    friend of the friendless Active Member

    Sirs, Madames,

    I put in for Federer last year. I'd put Oden ahead of Wade. I'd build a case around Troy Smith, Cannivaro, the Sumo grand champion, Barbaro, Ric Flair, almost anybody but SI's choice.

    YHS, etc
     
  9. Jones

    Jones Active Member

    You know, going back to Moger's original post, I've been thinking... My first instinct was to defend McDonell, probably because I, too, have a pathetic knowledge of sports and, I like to think, still manage to write sports okay.

    I mean, every guy in every sports bar in America would beat me in a trivia contest, even if that guy was just lost and looking for directions to the nearest Olive Garden. (I love the Chicken con Broccoli, by the way.)

    I've tried to improve my knowledge, have really worked at it, but there are still big, big holes -- college sports, for starters. (Christ, it's like learning a new language.) But in some ways, I think it's helped me, because it means I go into every story pretty fresh. I do a lot of research, get my grounding, and I write a profile of an athlete the way I'd write a profile about anyone else I've never met -- I try to find out something interesting about them, whatever it is that makes them tick, cast them in an important time and place, and away we go.

    It also means that I never have to worry about what I think is the cardinal sin of sportswriting, and that's writing above the heads of your readers -- being so embedded in something you lose sight of its real meaning.

    So, yeah, I was thinking of Terry the same way. But now I'm thinking herein lies one of the differences between writers and editors, particularly the editor of what is arguably the preeminent sports magazine in America. I really don't think you can do that job unless you care and know about sports. Even if you surround yourself with a tremendous staff, if you lack that basic love of the game, it's going to affect how you do your job, from your cover choices to the back page.

    I'm not saying Terry isn't fit for the job, because I'm going solely by Moger's assertion. Moger could be completely off-base. But if he isn't, it makes for an interesting debate.

    Sigh. I'm rambling. I just feel like this is the start of something big and I've been thinking out loud about it. My dog just got tired of listening.
     
  10. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Jones, I found one thing very disturbing about your post:
    You actually eat at the fucking Olive Garden?

    As for Moger's post, if McDonnell really is that clueless it proves one thing:
    ESPN has lowered the bar and SI is trying to sink to the same level.
     
  11. Jones

    Jones Active Member

    Well, I prefer the Macaroni Grill -- I like the build-your-own pasta, penne in the garlic cream sauce, with chicken, mushrooms, sundried tomatoes and garlic cloves -- but fuck yeah, I'll push through an Olive Garden till I'm shitting breadsticks.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Move over Roger Bannister, Muhammad Ali and Arthur Ashe, Dwyane Wade in da h

    You are not too far off, probably. What I am saying may be untrue. But it as my understanding that SI always operated with a great deal of autonomy, and at some point some of the Time bigwigs started to freak out about ESPN the magazine, even though SI has a steady readership and remains a cash cow. When the marketing people started meddling too much, it drove Bill Colson to quit. McDonell came from US Weekly. He was very successful there, but let's face it, it's a magazine where the circulation suits doing focus groups to see what kinds of covers result in the highest newsstand are more vital to the decision-making process than the actual editor. I am not saying this is definitely true about McDonell, because I have no clue what goes on behind the scenes at SI... but if you have an editor who doesn't know where to draw an absolute line in the sand and put his foot down because marketing considerations are trumping editorial choices that best serve the readership, I can see how something like a poorly-chosen Sportsman of the Year could happen.
     
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