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National League MVP -- Final Answer?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by PhilaYank36, Sep 29, 2007.

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This is going to be a tough one: who's the MVP in this league?

  1. Matt Holliday, OF (COL)

    16 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Jimmy Rollins, SS (PHI)

    13 vote(s)
    40.6%
  3. Both?????

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  1. I hate you all.
     
  2. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Jeter is a butcher at short.

    BTW, watching Howard "play defense" this year even more than I had a chance to in 2006.... How the HELL did anyone vote him MVP over Pujols last year?
     
  3. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Yes, because Poo-holes is a regular Mientkiewicz over at first.
     
  4. Beat me to it Doc.

    I checked first this time.
     
  5. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Uhhhh... yeah, Pujols is superior.

    You aren't actually going to fucking argue THAT, are you?
     
  6. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Superior, yes. But it's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Ford Taurus. Neither is a BMW.
     
  7. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Pujols is closer to Derrek Lee than he is to Ryan Howard defensively.
     
  8. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    When I said a No. 2 hitter was a similar to a No. 1 hitter, all I meant was that for PURPOSES OF THIS DISCUSSION they are similar.

    1 and 2 hitters are supposed to get on base and score runs, and 3-4-5 hitters are supposed to drive them.

    Sure, you can argue about how it's much more important for a no. 2 hitter to be adept at the hit-and-run or be able to bunt and it's more important for a leadoff hitter to steal, but you're talking about pretty subtle differences in terms of evaluating a guy's overall stats for 162 games.

    I notice you were all too busy ripping me for that for anyone to respond to the stat about good teams and leadoff hitters.
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Purposes of this discussion? You mean, purposes of backing your ridiculous argument, right?

    The actual production of the players means much more than where they hit in the lineup. Barry Bonds won his first MVP award in the five spot. The No. 3 hitter is supposed to be the best hitter on the team, right? Go on baseballreference.com and compare Andy Van Slyke and Barry Bonds in 1990 and 1991. Tell me who was better.

    I know. Not a great example. The argument is too silly to waste any more time than that on.
     
  10. Hackwilson191

    Hackwilson191 Member

    Holliday and the Rockies are up 1-0 in the NL MVP tiebreaker/NLDS
     
  11. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Except the votes were due before the playoffs began...but don't let the facts sway your stupidity.
     
  12. pallister

    pallister Guest

    You seamheads are funny.
     
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