National League MVP -- Final Answer?

No more love for Prince Fielder?

 

He'll get several first place votes to take away from Holliday and Rollins, but both players set themselves far apart from Fielder during the last bit of the season during the playoff run.

 

There is some brutal logic on display here.

Anywhoo, one of the two will win it, and the other won't get screwed, it'll just be a close vote.

Really, there's nothing wrong with that. There isn't a clear-cut winner every year.

 

The past two seasons there have been debates about who deserves it more. Last year it was Howard and Pujols, each of whom had great years for their respective clubs. Howard got it even though Pujols' team made the playoffs, but it was argued to death. This year, both teams made the playoffs (Phillies and Rockies) and each player has numbers that are certainly MVP worthy, but it's up to the voters to decide.

Do you give it to a power hitter who played many games at Coors Field and his numbers show it, but he played extremely well in September. On the other hand, do you give it to a shortstop who went 20-20-20-20 and led his team while a major part of the offense was missing?

This is what makes baseball so much more interesting when Bonds doesn't sweep the award for years on end. As well as the parity between players is getting smaller. It's a shame that over in the AL, Carlos Pena will not be getting too many votes, even though he murdered the ball this year. Pena is going to be like Fielder, not getting votes because his team didn't make the playoffs. Plus, each league has three options that may get votes ahead of the respective players. Rollins, Holliday, Ramirez (possibly) over Fielder, but not likely. A-Rod, Magglio, and Lowell (possibly) over Pena.

 

Thought, A-Rod might be unanaimous in the AL.

Honestly, Magglio was in there for a while, but that one has been a foregone conclusion for some time.

 

Yeah, it's obvious that A-Rod is unanimous in the AL, but I was just saying that it's a shame that Fielder may end up fourth in the voting if Ramirez sneaks in there. It may happen though, but Holliday and Rollins distanced themselves in the last part of the season from any other competition. Even though Fielder has the power, he doesn't have the average.

 

Lowell over Pena? I don't care how bad the Devil Rays are, that would be wrong. Were you forgetting Ortiz?

 

I understand that Holliday and Rollins moved past Fielder in most voters' minds because their teams reached the playoffs but they certainly didn't set themselves apart from Fielder during the stretch run. Fielder was awesome in the final weeks of the season. The difference is that, despite his performance, his team just didn't make the postseason.

 

Pena is a big part of the Devil Rays, contributing much more to his team's offense than Lowell, so I would put Pena ahead of Lowell.

To be honest, I have Lowell and Ortiz neck-and-neck to see who was the MVP of the Red Sox this season in the voting. In the AL MVP voting, I have A-Rod, Magglio, Pena, Lowell-Ortiz.

But minus this diversion, the thread is about the NL MVP, so I am done off the AL part.

 

That's what I love about this board. Every single sentence gets picked apart and people jump on you for anything, even if it has nothing to do with the point of the post.

Let's try to remember how we got here. We said that comparing Rollins to Holliday was apples-and-oranges because one is a table-setter and one is a No. 3 hitter. I said it was similar to last year with Jeter and Morneau, because one is a table-setter and one is a middle-of-the-order hitter. That was my only point.

If you want to argue endlessly that a No. 1 hitter is nothing like a No. 2 hitter or a No. 3 hitter is nothing like a No. 4 hitter, feel free. If that's the case, it must be some sort of miracle that hitters so frequently bounce between 1 and 2 (as Jeter and Rollins have done, by the way) or between 3, 4 and 5.

Sheesh.

 

Your sentences are getting picked apart because you made a silly argument.