Naturally, no thread yet on Romney's speech Thursday

Ace · Dec 6, 2007

Fenian_Bastard said:

And yawn, you will tell us where in the Bible it says that Jesus personally visited the Plains Indians and the Polynesian islanders.
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I believe that's the Newer Testament, F_B.

Yawn · Dec 6, 2007

Point of Order said:

I think we should take a moment to ingest a meaningful political speech (from JFK):

While the so-called religious issue is necessarily and properly the chief topic here tonight, I want to emphasize from the outset that we have far more critical issues to face in the 1960 election; the spread of Communist influence, until it now festers 90 miles off the coast of Florida--the humiliating treatment of our President and Vice President by those who no longer respect our power--the hungry children I saw in West Virginia, the old people who cannot pay their doctor bills, the families forced to give up their farms--an America with too many slums, with too few schools, and too late to the moon and outer space.

. . .

I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish--where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source--where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials--and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.

For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew--or a Quaker--or a Unitarian--or a Baptist. It was Virginia's harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson's statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim--but tomorrow it may be you--until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/40/story_4080_1.html
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And how is that imposed now? Belief systems aren't limited to a religion or a morality. Does that mean that those who wish to outlaw abortion are doing it on the basis of the Bible? Not in total.

Point of Order · Dec 6, 2007

Yawn,
You need look no further than your party's primary campaign!

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

Art. 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Yawn · Dec 6, 2007

Fenian_Bastard said:

Blitz said:

Caught part of the speech at work a few moments ago.
He was talking about the "values that his family was founded on and still believes in today" or somesuch.
What WAS impressive, though, was his lack of paper to read from. At least he can speak candidly and unrehearsed and not stumble all over himself like many politicians do.
Finally, he hasn't earned my vote.
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Candidly?
Unrehearsed?
Mitt Romney?
Wow.
And yawn, you will tell us where in the Bible it says that Jesus personally visited the Plains Indians and the Polynesian islanders.
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I think that is in, as you call it, the Newer Testament, otherwise known as the revisionist Bible of the Mormon faith and/or the Book of Mormon.

Yawn · Dec 6, 2007

Point of Order said:

Yawn,
You need look no further than your party's primary campaign!

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

Art. 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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I said it WAS NOT imposed now.

Point of Order · Dec 6, 2007

Yawn said:

Point of Order said:

Yawn,
You need look no further than your party's primary campaign!

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

Art. 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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I said it WAS NOT imposed now.
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Then why is Romney giving the speech?

jgmacg · Dec 6, 2007

We interrupt this program to bring you an important news update: An American presidential candidate went on the record earlier today as being in favor of faith and freedom. Again, that's faith - and freedom. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Dangerous_K · Dec 6, 2007

jgmacg said:

We interrupt this program to bring you an important news update: An American presidential candidate went on the record earlier today as being in favor of faith and freedom. Again, that's faith - and freedom. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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I want the American people to know that I am strongly in favor of puppies!

Ace · Dec 6, 2007

Dangerous_K said:

jgmacg said:

We interrupt this program to bring you an important news update: An American presidential candidate went on the record earlier today as being in favor of faith and freedom. Again, that's faith - and freedom. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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I want the American people to know that I am strongly in favor of puppies!
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Sorry. I believe I Love Puppies! has that position staked out already. And killing kittens is taken, for sure.

Yawn · Dec 6, 2007

Point of Order said:

Yawn said:

Point of Order said:

Yawn,
You need look no further than your party's primary campaign!

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

Art. 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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I said it WAS NOT imposed now.
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Then why is Romney giving the speech?
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To show that Mormons aren't bad people?

JoelHammond · Dec 6, 2007

All Republicans are not like Yawn.

Just throwing that out there, again.

Point of Order · Dec 6, 2007

Yawn said:

Point of Order said:

Yawn said:

Point of Order said:

Yawn,
You need look no further than your party's primary campaign!

Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.

Art. 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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I said it WAS NOT imposed now.
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Then why is Romney giving the speech?
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To show that Mormons aren't bad people?
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I haven't heard anyone say that Mormons are bad people. I HAVE heard a lot of republicans say that a Mormon should not be president.

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