NBA '08 Playoff Thread

Rumpleforeskin · Apr 24, 2008

bostonbred said:

Tripp McNeely said:

bostonbred said:

Boobie Miles said:

Just wondering, since when did Mike Bibby start sucking? I was amazed Atlanta was able to get him for so little in that trade, but now I'm not that surprised. He's 29 going on 40. No explosiveness, jumper doesn't look smooth. For a guy that used to be reasonably clutch, he really has not backed up his trash talk following Game 1. I'm just wondering if this is a recent development or if he's just always been a little overrated.
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Bibby had a terrible night...a lot of credit has to go to Rondo, who is quickly becoming a premier defensive PG. Notice how Bibby tried to get a bigger man to take him on, like Perkins, during most of the first half...Rajon was simply not letting him get good looks.

Has Bibby lost a step? I don't watch many of his games, but looking at his stats I'd say yes. He missed half of this season so it's hard to really say anything definitive about this year. But last year when he played every game, his shooting percentage was barely 40% and he used to hit 45% on a regular basis. He also recorded a career low in assists in '06-'07. Although he's played decent for Atlanta, he has not been a star by any means...he should be playing some of the best basketball of his career at his age but you could make a good case that his finest statistical season was way back with the Grizzlies.
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One post ... can we get one post freakin post without the greatness of the Celtics (or a specific Celtic) being touted?
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Uh, did you watch the game? Everything I said was correct.
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It may be true, but Rondo is an above-average defender. He can steal a few errant passes and keep Bibby (who lost a few steps) in front of him, but he's not premier defensive PG. He has a LONG way to get there.

Tripp McNeely · Apr 24, 2008

bostonbred said:

Tripp McNeely said:

bostonbred said:

Boobie Miles said:

Just wondering, since when did Mike Bibby start sucking? I was amazed Atlanta was able to get him for so little in that trade, but now I'm not that surprised. He's 29 going on 40. No explosiveness, jumper doesn't look smooth. For a guy that used to be reasonably clutch, he really has not backed up his trash talk following Game 1. I'm just wondering if this is a recent development or if he's just always been a little overrated.
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Bibby had a terrible night...a lot of credit has to go to Rondo, who is quickly becoming a premier defensive PG. Notice how Bibby tried to get a bigger man to take him on, like Perkins, during most of the first half...Rajon was simply not letting him get good looks.

Has Bibby lost a step? I don't watch many of his games, but looking at his stats I'd say yes. He missed half of this season so it's hard to really say anything definitive about this year. But last year when he played every game, his shooting percentage was barely 40% and he used to hit 45% on a regular basis. He also recorded a career low in assists in '06-'07. Although he's played decent for Atlanta, he has not been a star by any means...he should be playing some of the best basketball of his career at his age but you could make a good case that his finest statistical season was way back with the Grizzlies.
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One post ... can we get one post freakin post without the greatness of the Celtics (or a specific Celtic) being touted?
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Uh, did you watch the game? Everything I said was correct.
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I did watch the game and Bibby looked exactly like he's looked the rest of the season against most every other guard. Quit stroking the Celtics so damn much because honestly, there's really no need to. They're a great team. You spouting it at every turn is the reason why they're so hated.

Rumpleforeskin · Apr 24, 2008

NBA Steals Leaders
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Chris Paul (PG) - 2.71
Baron Davis (PG) - 2.33
Allen Iverson (PG) - 1.95
Kobe Bryant (SG) - 1.84
Jason Kidd (PG) - 1.7
Ronnie Brewer (SG) - 1.7
Rajon Rondo (PG) - 1.68

There are four PGs above Rondo in SPG. I would call Paul and Davis the top two defensive PGs in the NBA, not just because of their steals, but their overall play. Rondo is in the second-to-third tier, most likely third.

bostonbred · Apr 24, 2008

Rumpleforeskin said:

bostonbred said:

Tripp McNeely said:

bostonbred said:

Boobie Miles said:

Just wondering, since when did Mike Bibby start sucking? I was amazed Atlanta was able to get him for so little in that trade, but now I'm not that surprised. He's 29 going on 40. No explosiveness, jumper doesn't look smooth. For a guy that used to be reasonably clutch, he really has not backed up his trash talk following Game 1. I'm just wondering if this is a recent development or if he's just always been a little overrated.
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Bibby had a terrible night...a lot of credit has to go to Rondo, who is quickly becoming a premier defensive PG. Notice how Bibby tried to get a bigger man to take him on, like Perkins, during most of the first half...Rajon was simply not letting him get good looks.

Has Bibby lost a step? I don't watch many of his games, but looking at his stats I'd say yes. He missed half of this season so it's hard to really say anything definitive about this year. But last year when he played every game, his shooting percentage was barely 40% and he used to hit 45% on a regular basis. He also recorded a career low in assists in '06-'07. Although he's played decent for Atlanta, he has not been a star by any means...he should be playing some of the best basketball of his career at his age but you could make a good case that his finest statistical season was way back with the Grizzlies.
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One post ... can we get one post freakin post without the greatness of the Celtics (or a specific Celtic) being touted?
Click to expand...

Uh, did you watch the game? Everything I said was correct.
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It may be true, but Rondo is an above-average defender. He can steal a few errant passes and keep Bibby (who lost a few steps) in front of him, but he's not premier defensive PG. He has a LONG way to get there.
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I said he's becoming a premier defender. I'd agree that he's not there yet and will still make a few poor gambles here or there. He should keep getting better at age 22, as he has blazing speed, quick hands, and is an above-average rebounder at his position.

Tripp McNeely said:

bostonbred said:

Tripp McNeely said:

bostonbred said:

Boobie Miles said:

Just wondering, since when did Mike Bibby start sucking? I was amazed Atlanta was able to get him for so little in that trade, but now I'm not that surprised. He's 29 going on 40. No explosiveness, jumper doesn't look smooth. For a guy that used to be reasonably clutch, he really has not backed up his trash talk following Game 1. I'm just wondering if this is a recent development or if he's just always been a little overrated.
Click to expand...

Bibby had a terrible night...a lot of credit has to go to Rondo, who is quickly becoming a premier defensive PG. Notice how Bibby tried to get a bigger man to take him on, like Perkins, during most of the first half...Rajon was simply not letting him get good looks.

Has Bibby lost a step? I don't watch many of his games, but looking at his stats I'd say yes. He missed half of this season so it's hard to really say anything definitive about this year. But last year when he played every game, his shooting percentage was barely 40% and he used to hit 45% on a regular basis. He also recorded a career low in assists in '06-'07. Although he's played decent for Atlanta, he has not been a star by any means...he should be playing some of the best basketball of his career at his age but you could make a good case that his finest statistical season was way back with the Grizzlies.
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One post ... can we get one post freakin post without the greatness of the Celtics (or a specific Celtic) being touted?
Click to expand...

Uh, did you watch the game? Everything I said was correct.
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I did watch the game and Bibby looked exactly like he's looked the rest of the season against most every other guard. Quit stroking the Celtics so damn much because honestly, there's really no need to. They're a great team. You spouting it at every turn is the reason why they're so hated.
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Bibby's definitely still better than 2-for-7 with 1 assist and a turnover...especially for a team as thin on the bench as the Hawks are. He should be running that team and feeding the ball to Horford and Smith, but instead a first-year starter completely dominated him in every facet in those two games in Boston.

friend of a friend · Apr 24, 2008

Unreal

sportschick · Apr 24, 2008

friend of a friend said:

Unreal
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That's one way to put it.

Tripp McNeely · Apr 24, 2008

You know I can't let the Boston guy have all the fun now.
Good game for the Lakers. The Nuggets made their adjustments and Bryant burned them, big time. Shooting 18 of 27 from the field was pretty damn impressive, but adding 10 assists on a night when one of the Lakers' top three players saw limited action only added to it.

Bryant showed KG-type intensity tonight.
Unreal.

Lieslntx · Apr 24, 2008

Can I admit that it hurts me to see San Antonio moving above the Lakers in the oh-so-scientific poll here?

friend of a friend · Apr 24, 2008

yes

Piotr Rasputin · Apr 24, 2008

Paul!

Nash!

Rondo!

It's the NBA point guard rankings, playing only in bostonbred's teenage head!

Chi City 81 · Apr 24, 2008

Piotr Rasputin said:

Paul!

Nash!

Rondo!

It's the NBA point guard rankings, playing only in bostonbred's teenage head!
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He's 20, you asshole! ;D

nafselon · Apr 24, 2008

One day I want to get paid to have as much fun as Ernie, Kenny and Chuck have on Inside the NBA.

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