NCAA investigating Cam Newton

Flying Headbutt · Nov 10, 2010

Dan Mullen was on the radio today and since he's the coach, the host figured he would know what is and isn't true. Mullen wouldn't talk about it. What a chickenshit coward.

Boom_70 · Nov 10, 2010

Interesting article on Newnan City Council's deliberations on whether to condemn Rev Newton's church.

http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Fate-of-Temple-Avenue-church-before-Newnan-City-Council-Tuesday-1138861?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2FTopStories+%28The+Times-Herald+%3E+Top+Stories%29

hondo · Jan 1, 2015

mustangj17 said:

JackReacher said:

mustangj17 said:

cjericho said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The "problems" are that paying players would reveal the fundamental insupportability of college athletics as a going concern. Only by artificially limiting the earning power of athletes can athletic departments even operate with big losses.
The MORAL and ETHICAL thing to do is abolish scholarship intercollegiate athletics. If kids want to play ball, let 'em form their teams and buy 'em equipment out of activity fees. We only do it this way out of tradition. The European club system for major sports is far more honest a setup.
I don't propose abolishing college sports. I like them. But those sports could benefit from way less hypocrisy about how they operate. Adults tattling on each other indicates the whole deal is corrupt from jump street. Why not make it more like a real business, since it is a business?
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i pretty much think they should get paid something, maybe like 2k first year and 2k more each year after that, who knows. i would think that the college education is worth them playing for the school if the coaches didn't get paid so much. but it's hard to think a kid helps the coach get a multi-year multi-million dollar contract, gets hurt plays a couple seasons or none in the NFL and never makes more than 50K a year after that.
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ARE WE REALLY GOING BACK TO THIS HERE! DO I REALLY HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS!

We already had a thread about paying athletes. We could discuss this all day. This thread is for Cam Newton. Not if we should pay football players and women's volleyball players or what we think they should get paid.
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Jesus dude. Take a deep breath and don't get so rick about it.
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I just feel like we have been through this argument for 9 pages. It's going to continue until our heads explode. Someone will mention that paying players is the only way out of this mess, nothing specific about Newton. Someone will join the party and say "They should get paid this much." This will go on forever. Its worse than the Steelers threadjack.
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Have a drink.

cjericho · Jan 1, 2015

hondo said:

mustangj17 said:

JackReacher said:

mustangj17 said:

cjericho said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The "problems" are that paying players would reveal the fundamental insupportability of college athletics as a going concern. Only by artificially limiting the earning power of athletes can athletic departments even operate with big losses.
The MORAL and ETHICAL thing to do is abolish scholarship intercollegiate athletics. If kids want to play ball, let 'em form their teams and buy 'em equipment out of activity fees. We only do it this way out of tradition. The European club system for major sports is far more honest a setup.
I don't propose abolishing college sports. I like them. But those sports could benefit from way less hypocrisy about how they operate. Adults tattling on each other indicates the whole deal is corrupt from jump street. Why not make it more like a real business, since it is a business?
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i pretty much think they should get paid something, maybe like 2k first year and 2k more each year after that, who knows. i would think that the college education is worth them playing for the school if the coaches didn't get paid so much. but it's hard to think a kid helps the coach get a multi-year multi-million dollar contract, gets hurt plays a couple seasons or none in the NFL and never makes more than 50K a year after that.
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ARE WE REALLY GOING BACK TO THIS HERE! DO I REALLY HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS!

We already had a thread about paying athletes. We could discuss this all day. This thread is for Cam Newton. Not if we should pay football players and women's volleyball players or what we think they should get paid.
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Jesus dude. Take a deep breath and don't get so rick about it.
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I just feel like we have been through this argument for 9 pages. It's going to continue until our heads explode. Someone will mention that paying players is the only way out of this mess, nothing specific about Newton. Someone will join the party and say "They should get paid this much." This will go on forever. Its worse than the Steelers threadjack.
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Have a drink.

hondo said:

mustangj17 said:

JackReacher said:

mustangj17 said:

cjericho said:

Michael_ Gee said:

The "problems" are that paying players would reveal the fundamental insupportability of college athletics as a going concern. Only by artificially limiting the earning power of athletes can athletic departments even operate with big losses.
The MORAL and ETHICAL thing to do is abolish scholarship intercollegiate athletics. If kids want to play ball, let 'em form their teams and buy 'em equipment out of activity fees. We only do it this way out of tradition. The European club system for major sports is far more honest a setup.
I don't propose abolishing college sports. I like them. But those sports could benefit from way less hypocrisy about how they operate. Adults tattling on each other indicates the whole deal is corrupt from jump street. Why not make it more like a real business, since it is a business?
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i pretty much think they should get paid something, maybe like 2k first year and 2k more each year after that, who knows. i would think that the college education is worth them playing for the school if the coaches didn't get paid so much. but it's hard to think a kid helps the coach get a multi-year multi-million dollar contract, gets hurt plays a couple seasons or none in the NFL and never makes more than 50K a year after that.
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ARE WE REALLY GOING BACK TO THIS HERE! DO I REALLY HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS!

We already had a thread about paying athletes. We could discuss this all day. This thread is for Cam Newton. Not if we should pay football players and women's volleyball players or what we think they should get paid.
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Jesus dude. Take a deep breath and don't get so rick about it.
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I just feel like we have been through this argument for 9 pages. It's going to continue until our heads explode. Someone will mention that paying players is the only way out of this mess, nothing specific about Newton. Someone will join the party and say "They should get paid this much." This will go on forever. Its worse than the Steelers threadjack.
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Have a drink.
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maybe even get a date
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Piotr Rasputin · Nov 10, 2010

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/10/marcus-dupree-cam-newton-and-the-souths-underground-economy/

Nice story until Clay Travis jumps on the "Pay the PLAYERS!!!!!!!!" soapbox. Yes, Travis, they put themselves on the line "for free." Nope, no compensation for college athletes, no sirree. They're just like everyone else, struggling and wondering how they'll pay back those dastardly college loans.

Also: he makes the comparison between athletes who are forced to go to college, and someone like Taylor Swift, who is allowed to go pro early. Hey, it would be very interesting to see 18-year-olds go into the NFL. Then by 20, they'll be back home, physically broken and wondering what the hell happened.

JayFarrar · Nov 10, 2010

Is it true that Vegas took the Auburn-Georgia game off the board over concerns about Newton's eligibility?

If that is the case, and as best as I can recall, it would be the first time Vegas has done such a thing.

franticscribe · Nov 10, 2010

JayFarrar said:

Is it true that Vegas took the Auburn-Georgia game off the board over concerns about Newton's eligibility?

If that is the case, and as best as I can recall, it would be the first time Vegas has done such a thing.
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The UNC-LSU game went off the board in a lot of sports books at the start of this season.

Mizzougrad96 · Nov 10, 2010

JayFarrar said:

Is it true that Vegas took the Auburn-Georgia game off the board over concerns about Newton's eligibility?

If that is the case, and as best as I can recall, it would be the first time Vegas has done such a thing.
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Lots of games are taken off the board at sportsbooks for various reasons.

JackReacher · Nov 10, 2010

Piotr Rasputin said:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/10/marcus-dupree-cam-newton-and-the-souths-underground-economy/

Nice story until Clay Travis jumps on the "Pay the PLAYERS!!!!!!!!" soapbox. Yes, Travis, they put themselves on the line "for free." Nope, no compensation for college athletes, no sirree. They're just like everyone else, struggling and wondering how they'll pay back those dastardly college loans.

Also: he makes the comparison between athletes who are forced to go to college, and someone like Taylor Swift, who is allowed to go pro early. Hey, it would be very interesting to see 18-year-olds go into the NFL. Then by 20, they'll be back home, physically broken and wondering what the hell happened.
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Shocking that he would write something like this. Totally shocking.

Puke.

slappy4428 · Nov 10, 2010

Piotr Rasputin said:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/10/marcus-dupree-cam-newton-and-the-souths-underground-economy/

Nice story until Clay Travis jumps on the "Pay the PLAYERS!!!!!!!!" soapbox. Yes, Travis, they put themselves on the line "for free." Nope, no compensation for college athletes, no sirree. They're just like everyone else, struggling and wondering how they'll pay back those dastardly college loans.

Also: he makes the comparison between athletes who are forced to go to college, and someone like Taylor Swift, who is allowed to go pro early. Hey, it would be very interesting to see 18-year-olds go into the NFL. Then by 20, they'll be back home, physically broken and wondering what the hell happened.
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Clay Travis lost me when he asked Tebow about his virginity.

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CYowSMR · Nov 10, 2010

Clay was dared to do so by the boobs at JOX. In case nobody was aware.

Question about Cameron -- why did the Newton's single out MSU? Why did they only ask for payment from that particular institution?

Armchair_QB · Jan 1, 2015

JackReacher said:

Armchair_QB said:

Mizzougrad96 said:

Well, it took Reggie Bush five years to be "proven guilty"

I can understand why someone wouldn't want their vote to go to someone who will have to give it back in a few years.

But this season, it's not like there's a "This guy or this guy" this could be the tiebreak.

Newton may win by one of the highest margins in history.
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The decision to strip Bush of the Heisman was one of the dumbest in recent memory. The Heisman Trust is not an enforcement arm of the NCAA.
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But the Heisman gives the award out only to players who were eligible by NCAA standards. Bush, as we've found out, was not eligible when he won. Therefore, the Heisman stripped him of the award. It's in their rules.
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He was eligible when he won the award. To go back and retroactively strip him of it is nothing more than grandstanding on the part of the Heisman Trust.

And if integrity is important and its now possible to retroactively strip winners of their awards then Billy Cannon and O.J. Simpson should be stripped of their Heismans and all privileges associated with being a former winner immediately.

And so should Gino Torretta purely on the grounds that he never should won the fucking thing in the first place...

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