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NCAA investigating Cam Newton

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Probably because the public knows the NCAA rules are full of shit.
     
  2. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    There is a fine line between offering a player a kickback - a blatant rules violation and not considering stretching a countable football related activity.

    Stretching falls into a gray area with the NCAA and it is not outlined in a detailed manor. Many things are not countable including film study, and time spent in the training room. Michigan chose to operate in a gray area and not count stretching as a countable activity. It put them over the weekly limit by 20 minutes. If you think that is comparable to paying a player or offering a player kickbacks, I don't wish to continue to debate college football with you.

    In Michigan's case, the NCAA obviously felt stretching should be counted. So now Michigan will lose an hour for every hour they went over. They are paying the price for what I truly believe was an interpretation of the rules. And I 100 percent believe Rich Rod knew what he was doing. He knew the NCAA did not clearly outline if stretching was countable or not. So he stretched the rules and got called out for it. He was operating by the written rule, but not the spirit of the rule.

    If anything he broke the spirit of the rule. Not the rule itself.
     
  3. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    I'm in agreement with you Mizzou. Dan Mullen/MSU may look like children by telling on Newton, but IMO, that's not worse than cheating itself. I'm sure if MSU is doing something wrong now they will be exposed. Which is really the only reason coaches and programs don't tell each other.

    Personally, I love this. I wish all the programs would start calling one another out and blow the lid off this thing. It would be great. Cleveland State may even get probation.
     
  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Well until someone with a believable source can prove this, the constant barrage of slime being thrown against Newton looks like a witch hunt fueled by sour grapes. When John Bond is your only named source, and what he's offering is "well I heard from this guy who talked to this guy" is the strongest "evidence" out there, it looks lame. Plus the way the reporting schools and SEC and NCAA have handled this -- basically ignoring it until unnamed sources are cited in the media -- puts huge doubts on the validity of this.

    Likewise it doesn't help Mullen that he goes on the air, implies that he knows some shit, and won't talk about it. Either man up and say what you know or admit you don't really know anything and stop trashing the kid.
     
  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Agree completely. I think there's something to this, but I love that the people getting the most heat are the ones who tattled.
     
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Rogers is on Dallas radio right now spilling everything.
     
  7. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Has he confirmed how much Auburn paid Newton?
     
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    No, he said he was only involved in the MSU stuff.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5792707&campaign=rss&source=ESPNUHeadlines
     
  9. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    I read today, on Andy Staples' twitter, that soliciting money from a school is a major NCAA violation. However....if the SEC knew about the Newtons soliciting money from MSU in December and that info was passed along to the NCAA -- as it's been reported -- then why was Newton allowed to play at all this year?
     
  10. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Florida is a good school. But I don't think too many athletes are denied admission based on academics.

    The facilities are amazing. The women are amazing. They're pretty goddamn hot at MSU and Auburn too.

    Talent in the state is great. No question about that.

    You can also say that about USC. It didn't stop them from cheating.

    Having the best facilities and a ton of money doesn't necessarily keep you from cheating, it can also mean that you can cheat better than anyone else.
     
  11. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I can kind of understand MSU turning him in because Mullen is pissed that he missed out on a guy who clearly is a game-changer. I don't understand why Florida is leaking the academic stuff to try to destroy the kid's reputation.

    I hope when the NCAA questions Newton they ask him about what kinds of things he saw at UF as well as Auburn.
     
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  12. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Staples' twitter feed is on point today. Saying now that the NCAA takes into account the athlete's responsibility when weighing whether or not to take action.

    So I suppose there's a chance the NCAA knew about this months ago, determined that Cam Newton had very little to do with it (placing most of the blame on his dad) and cleared Cam to play for Auburn.
     
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