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New Hampshire Primary Running Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Fenian_Bastard, Jan 4, 2008.

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  1. RedSmithClone

    RedSmithClone Active Member

    Well, let's put it this way.

    I myself am a McCain man, so I'm sticking with him. BUT ... some who may simply want to answer that old ladies question from an earlier McCain function of "How do we beat the Bitch?" Can easily answer it by voting for Obama. The more he wins early on the better for all of America because he is definitely a better choice for all of us than is HRC.

    I'll tell you right now that if in the end I had a choice between a minister - Huckabee - and Obama. I choose Obama.
    If it were Huckabee and HRC I choose the minister.
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Fair enough, Red. I don't like her, either. I don't quite understand the level of acrimony, but I get the sentiment.

    And yeah, Fenian, that one didn't break much, did it?
     
  3. That's something I never got, either. It can't be ideological, because anyone who paid attention knows she (and Bill) were career centrists. (Bill ran the DLC, for god's sake.) I suppose if you identify liberal-conservative on the basis of abortion, you'd havfe a case, but both of them soft-pedalled their pro-life credentials. HRC even joined up with the execrable Mr. Lieberman on video games and flag-burning, to say nothing of her votes on the war. Assuming for the moment that it's more than raw sexism, I don't see it.
    And, for the record, I'd vote for her over any of the rodeo clowns.
     
  4. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    No they don't.
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    URGENT
    Clinton and Obama locked in dead heat in NH poll
    Eds: LEDES with poll results.
    AP Photo NHMG119, NHMG118, NHMG117, NHEA109, NHEA110, NHEA108, NHJC116, NHJC115, NHJC114
    By NEDRA PICKLER
    Associated Press Writer

    MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are locked in a dead heat for the New Hampshire primary, according to a poll released Saturday that underscores the tight Democratic race after his win in Iowa.
    Each candidate had 33 percent support in the poll conducted by CNN and New Hampshire television station WMUR, with John Edwards in third place with 20 percent.
    The poll was released as the candidates gathered for a presidential debate late Saturday night, three days before New Hampshire votes. Clinton and Edwards hope to stop Obama, the victor in Iowa, from capturing the first-in-the-nation primary that would only add to his momentum as he pursues the nomination.
    New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who finished a distant fourth in Iowa and got just 4 percent in the poll, also was scheduled to participate.
     
  5. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Well, Bill was referring to the ARG and Rasmussen polls released earlier that showed Sen. Obama with 12- and 10-point leads, respectively.

    If Iowa is truly a trend, the poll with the least restrictive screen is likely to be the best, but I have no idea which one that is.
     
  6. RedSmithClone

    RedSmithClone Active Member

    Bill was a centrist. Hill is an elitist, socialist biatch in centrist's clothing. While I think some of what she has done leaning toward the center is true, I believe most has been done because one of the greatest political strategists of all time - her husband - is trying to make her look like the centrist he was. I ain't buying any of it.

    All I need for evidence of that is her Christmas campaign ad - UNIVERSAL EVERYTHING = SOCIALIST!
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Huckabee vs. Hillary is a scenario that scares me to death.

    I don't think I could vote for either of them.
     
  8. RedSmithClone

    RedSmithClone Active Member


    That's when you pray for a Bloomberg third-party run!
     
  9. Cape_Fear

    Cape_Fear Active Member

    Wasn't Penn the one that advised her to skip Iowa? Or am I thinking of somebody else.
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    She was going to skip Iowa if Tom Vilsack was going to run.

    Not sure where the camps within her camp came down after he dropped out. But she pretty much had to play.
     
  11. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Well, we now know which way Hillary intends to go.

    http://tpmelectioncentral.com/

    The truth, of course, is this: Senator Obama was asked by pro choice leaders to vote the way he did on the bills described in the mailer, to combat a GOP strategy of forcing votes on ridiculous abortion bills.

    Please to be fucking off, now, Hillary.

    This doesn't even pass the smell test.
     
  12. Mitt Romney just said that "president Bush is not subject to a bunker mentality."
    Christ, even Republicans have complained about that.
    McCain looks and sounds very tired. He just said General Petraeus is "one of the great military leaders in our nation's history."
    Wha?
    And all of them, except Ron Paul, are attaching themselves to the "Bush Doctrine" of pre-emptive war.
    Please kill me now.
     
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