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New Hampshire Primary Running Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Fenian_Bastard, Jan 4, 2008.

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  1. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Clearly, though, HRC is eschewing the slash and burn politics of racial dog whistling.

    A prominent New York Clinton supporter, Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, on how Hillary beat Obama in New Hampshire by beating him at retail politics:

    ”It’s not a TV-crazed race. Frankly you can’t buy your way into it,” Cuomo said. “You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference,” he added. “All those moves you can make with the press don’t work when you’re in someone’s living room.”


    Karl.Rove.Pantsuit.
     


  2. Boy, it's just amazing how the evil GOP just causes all these Dems to shoot themselves in the foot.

    Please.
     
  3. "Shuck and jive"?

    Zeke, if a GOPer said that, he'd be tied to the national whipping post 10 minutes ago.
     
  4. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Yup. Pretty much what I've been saying for months. This isn't the first time they've done it, either.
     
  5. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member


    I am going to guess that you didn’t read what I wrote too well. I’ll try to write it out differently:
    - Dean did NOT shoot himself in the foot.
    - Dean yelled after losing Iowa.
    - The GOP’s stereotype of Dean being crazy allowed the scream to become more than just an enthusiastic yell. It fulfilled the stereotype.

    Now, you can believe it or not, but that is what really occurred. Nothing about the speech or the yelling said “crazy.” However, because the stereotype was already laid out there it merely played into it. Prior to Iowa, Dean was raising massive amounts of money and he had a ton of momentum. He was on the cover of magazines and he was widely considered the man that would get the eventual nod.
     
  6. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Even if Hillary "wins" the nomination, she's gonna lose half the party with this nonsense. Me, included.
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I'll take that bet.

    The thing about the Huckster is he can adapt to the situation. If he thinks religion is the card to play, he'll start quoting chapter and verse. If he thinks it'll hurt him, he'll hide his light under a bushel. He's the Born Again, Republican version of Bill Clinton in that he can fit in no matter the audience.
     
  8. bostonbred

    bostonbred Guest

    Exactly what the GOP wants...this petty Hillary/Obama feud is playing right into their hands.
     
  9. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    He wouldn't have to "shuck and jive" so much, but he hasn't done the "spade work."
     
  10. JackyJackBN

    JackyJackBN Guest

    You are betting on the ignorance of the electorate. I'm betting that word gets around. I'm not going to put a nickle on it.

    Last night a Texan with international ties told a group here that the Iowa caucus results were on the second segment of the TV news in Texas--after the break--while he knew that they led the news in Tokyo. That didn't encourage me.

    We'll see.
     
  11. You keep saying that, and it's ahistorical nonsense now like it was three weeks ago when you turned Billy Shaheen into David Duke. Can you please calm down? You lost a primary because y'all got outorganized. You've had a pretty good couple of days since. I'm sorry that HRC has surrogates who decline to make nice -- although when Barack summoned up the ghosts of Clintons Past a while back, alllying himself however briefly with the minions of RM Scaife and the Arkansas Project, I didn't hear the trumpets.
     
  12. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    What was that, Fenian? I couldn't hear you with someone whispering in my ear.

    I didn't "Try and make Shaheen into David Duke." I pointed out what he said. I didn't quote Andrew Sullivan, I quoted Obama.

    And if you will honestly sit here and say that if anyone other than the Clintons was pulling this shit -- shuck and jive, spade work, Gene Shaheen, madrassa emails, Bob Kerrey -- and say you wouldn't condemn them, well, I don't believe you.

    Democrats are supposed to be better than this. All Democrats.
     
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