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New QB Rating?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Lugnuts, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Wow.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Even if all they did was recalculate the old formula on a 100-point baseline, it would be a huge improvement.
     
  3. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Let's see ... no one ever explains what the current QB rankings mean, but since TV guys talk about them, they must be important! Somehow, I think this is just more of the same just so analysts can baffle us with with more BS packaged as brillance.
     
  4. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    What, you don't like 158.3 as a baseline? Easy enough to remember.
     
  5. Chris17

    Chris17 Member

    A couple of things come to mind, mostly criticisms. But the number one thing that comes to mind is the question that this SI writer poses, but is afraid to answer truthfully.

    The question: Will it stick? Will the public use it?

    The answer: If ESPN is this serious about pumping it up and using it constantly, then yes. The public won't have a choice.
     
  6. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Bingo
     
  7. cyclingwriter

    cyclingwriter Active Member

    Mizzou and Dooley bring up an interesting idea. Why have a complicated rating system for qbs, but not other skills players?

    Remember passer rating came about in the early 70s because before then qbs were listed in the paper ranked by yardage only. It was "obvious" to people working in the game that it was better to factor in tds, ints, completion pct. and yardage per pass to show worth.

    So why not other skills players?

    I remember as a kid using "yardage" as the only grade to measure the worth of rbs and wrs. Ie, wow Kevin House must be better than Louis Lipps, he had more receiving yards.

    Same fallacy as with qbs. So why no Rb Rating, WR rating from ESPN. And yes I am sure there are scores of fantasy sites that have ratings, and I remember Pro Football Prospectus used to have those factors.

    But sadly it will take the WWL to force it down people's throats.
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Two stats I would like to see added, and they would be fairly simple to add...

    1. Completions leading to first downs
    2. Go ahead touchdowns thrown

    Others...
    Interceptions thrown when leading
    Rushing first downs (for QBs and RBs)
    Passes caught for first downs (For TEs, WRs and RBs)
    Go ahead field goals made and missed
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Saw interesting note in Mike Florio's column:

    " Under the Total QBR, Tim Tebow performed better on Sunday than Aaron Rodgers.

    Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.

    Tebow, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2."
     
  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Actual score vs. spread is the only football stat that matters.
     
  11. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    and that should put an end to another stupid metric to quantify good QB play.
     
  12. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    And in this video game, fantasy sport generation, it appears that who actually wins the game is on its way to becoming less and less important compared to how an individual performs in said game.
     
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