Newt Gingrich, The Ship Be Sinking

Dick Whitman · Dec 8, 2011

RickStain said:

It's a calculated risk. If it blows it up in his face, so be it. That doesn't mean it was the wrong choice.
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That doesn't mean it wasn't, either.

I understand "decisions, not results."

I'm saying that this might have been the wrong decision.

Mizzougrad96 · Dec 8, 2011

RickStain said:

It's a calculated risk. If it blows it up in his face, so be it. That doesn't mean it was the wrong choice.
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I agree with that.

Beaker · Dec 10, 2011

Newt sticks his foot in his mouth by calling the Palestinians an "invented people."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/10/politics/gingrich-palestinians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Stitch · Dec 10, 2011

Beaker said:

Newt sticks his foot in his mouth by calling the Palestinians an "invented people."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/10/politics/gingrich-palestinians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Is he wrong? It still doesn't change the fact that Israel's continued occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is not legitimate, and the building of settlements is a violation of international law.

heyabbott · Dec 10, 2011

Stitch said:

Beaker said:

Newt sticks his foot in his mouth by calling the Palestinians an "invented people."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/10/politics/gingrich-palestinians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Is he wrong? It still doesn't change the fact that Israel's continued occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is not legitimate, and the building of settlements is a violation of international law.
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Israel should give the West Bank back to Jordan, it was Jordanian in 1967 when they attacked Israel.

Inky_Wretch · Dec 10, 2011

Speechless? Yep.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-to-judge-napolitano-the-tea-party-supporting-gingrich-over-obama-must-be-about-race/

Starman · Dec 10, 2011

Inky_Wretch said:

Speechless? Yep.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-to-judge-napolitano-the-tea-party-supporting-gingrich-over-obama-must-be-about-race/
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Drugs.

I haven't seen Fatboy since he went off to Tinfoil.com or whereever the fuck he went, but obviously his intellectual functioning is still at its highly elevated level.

Ben_Hecht · Dec 11, 2011

A case could be made that those years in Connecticut did serious damage to the toys in the attic.

Stitch · Dec 11, 2011

Beck's feelings towards Romney continue to back up my assertion that a lot of Mormons aren't Romney fans.

Starman · Dec 11, 2011

Stitch said:

Beck's feelings towards Romney continue to back up my assertion that a lot of Mormons aren't Romney fans.
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Beck's about as much of a Mormon as Newt is a Catholic. Har har.

YankeeFan · Dec 11, 2011

Beaker said:

Newt sticks his foot in his mouth by calling the Palestinians an "invented people."

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/10/politics/gingrich-palestinians/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Krauthammer on FOXNews "Special Report" on Friday:

Historically he’s right, but at this point in (later) history it doesn’t really matter.

He is right that there never was a Palestine under the Ottomans (1517-1917). There was no Palestine under the British (1917-1948). When the Arabs had control of what are now the Palestinian territories (1949-1967) – Jordan had the West Bank and Egypt had Gaza for 20 years – none of them recognized a Palestinian state.And they could have created overnight a Palestinian state [in the West Bank and Gaza]. But they [instead]annexed those territories.

And there wasn’t a Palestinian [national] consciousness. They considered – during the first part of the 20thcentury — [that] they were part of the larger Arab world. However, as a result of the next 30 years there[developed] a Palestinian national consciousness.

It’s now a fact, invented or not, a fact, and the world has to respond.

It shows he [Gingrich] knows his history. But if the implication is he is against a Palestinian state, the train has long left that station.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/285448/krauthammers-take-nro-staff
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YankeeFan · Dec 11, 2011

Daniel Pipes, on the same topic:

The former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives and current Republican presidential candidate said yesterday that “there was no Palestine as a state. It was part of the Ottoman Empire. We have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and are historically part of the Arab people, and they had the chance to go many places.”

Everyone from the PLO to a Mitt Romney spokesman jumped on Gingrich for this assertion, but he happens to be absolutely correct: No Arabic-speaking Muslims identified themselves as “Palestinian” until 1920, when, in rapid order this appellation and identity was adopted by the Muslim Arabs living in the British mandate of Palestine.

For details, see a long article of mine from 1989 on the topic or a short one from 2000.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/285463/newt-gingrich-and-invented-palestinian-people-daniel-pipes
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