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NFL 2016-17 playoffs running thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by LongTimeListener, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I am sure that the major part of Reid's thinking was that they could hold the Steelers under 10 yards on three running plays -- because Andy Reid could not conceive of a scenario where a team wouldn't run the ball three times in a row and punt.
     
  2. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Teams can get stupid conservative in such situations.

    Every time Tennessee (college) is faced with a "get a first down and win the game" scenario, they run up the gut three times and punt. Every damn time.
     
  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I'd consider putting Don Shula on there, too, even though he did win a couple of Super Bowls. For all the great things he did, the last 20 years of his career included a lot of playoff flameouts.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    If you'd consider putting Don Shula on there, you're forgetting the question.
     
  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    With the caveat, of course, that it's Don Shula post-1973. If we need a fourth.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Well, Marv Levy did get to four Super Bowls, but ...
     
  7. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Great Don Shula stat: In six Super Bowls and an NFL championship game (1964), his teams scored a total of two second-half touchdowns.

    One of those was when the Colts were down 16-0 to the Jets with three minutes left in Super Bowl III.

    The other was vs. the Vikings in Super Bowl VIII when the Dolphins were up 17-0 in the third quarter.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Bud Grant says hello
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    True. I wouldn't have been shocked to see runs on first and second down, but unless they lost yardage or it was third and two or less, Tomlin was going to have them passing on third down.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I'm sure the thinking was -- and rightly so -- that the Chiefs were far more likely to get a three-and-out than recover an onside kick. Neither of those outcomes was likely (greater than 50-50), but the probability of a defensive stop was probably three times greater than that of a kick recovery.

    And as someone pointed out, it's not like they needed a touchdown -- just to get into field goal range. Kicking was the right call.
     
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  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Not really though, because they weren't risking giving up a short field for a score. The Steelers' whole goal there was the first down. So the onside kick would essentially be giving them two chances at the same goal when the Steelers had only one positive outcome they were looking for.

    Field position was an important consideration though, and ultimately they got good odds -- a stop on third-and-four and they get the ball back almost in FG range. I don't have a huge problem with them kicking off.

    I do have a huge problem with them treating their fourth-quarter drive like a May mini-camp. Does Reid know there isn't a required minimum of seconds that must run off the clock before every snap?
     
  12. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I agree. The Chiefs stood no shot against the Pats. The Steelers at least roll into New England with the best RB, best WR and a top 5ish QB. They've got a better chance than the Chiefs did.
     
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