NFL offseason thread

Agree with that. It's out of control.

But he started 15 regular season games. Slightly more than a half-season.

 

Fair enough. I was not aware it was that many.

I want the dude to be successful. I'd love it if he were transcendent.

I also, at this point, am just crossing my fingers that he doesn't regress a bit like Cam Newton.

It baffles me fans get to pissed about "lists" anyway. Oh noes! You mean, if I say Luck is better, it means I'm disrespecting RG3? Will this somehow affect his ability to perform? When will he be acknowledged as ELITE???

I blame Bleacher Report. Or ESPN. Or both. Actually, I blame humanity.

 

Luck's second year is the one I am most interested in watching. He had a 23/18 TD/pick ratio and he is the slowest of the group. Sure, he probably improves that to 30/10 this season, but in this day and age, 23/18 isn't that great.

Of the runners, the one that keeps their legs the healthiest the longest will probably be the one the last the longest. No shit, right?

Keap's long wind up concerns me. RGIII's knee is already worked on and he has taken some big time hits, but he has the best size. Newton might not have what it takes between the ears to pull it off. That leaves Wilson, who has a cannon for an arm and is amazingly accurate. If he lost his legs, I think he has the best chance to survive in the NFL along with Luck, then RGIII then Newton then Keap.

 

The Colts will be one of those teams that will be really interesting to watch. Without Arians and having Pagano back full time, a tougher schedule - they could be better a game or two better, or a game or two (or more) worse.
I'd throw the Ravens in that boat as well. Flacco is now the face of the franchise, and he seemed perfectly fine not being "the guy."

 

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts this is Schaub's last season as an incumbent starter in Houston.

 

Luck is by far the best bet of that group in the long term simply because of the injury factor.

Just FYI, Peyton Manning's rookie TD/INT was 26/28. Brady's was 18/12 in his first season as a starter and Drew Brees' was 17/16.

I think Luck was excellent for a rookie and will continue to get better.

 

Saying Luck is by far the best is ridiculous. He very well may turn out to be the best but if you don't think Luck got hit a ton last year people weren't paying attention.

 

Didn't say "best," said "best bet in the long term."

As for the hits, let's compare opportunities to get hit last season.

Luck: 41 sacks, 62 rushing attempts, 103 total

Griffin (15 games): 30 sacks, 120 rushes, 150 total

Wilson: 33 sacks, 94 rushes, 127 total

Kaepernick (13 appearances, seven starts -- about a half season playing time): 16 sacks, 63 rushes, 79 total

Obviously, this does not take into account times hit without being sacked while throwing, nor hits taken without the ball on option plays. But it's a decent comparison.

Of course, it only takes one hit to cause a major injury, and that could come any time, in any situation. But as far as the odds go, I don't think there's any question that a QB for whom running is a major part of his game is more likely to be injured than one who runs less and stays in the pocket more.

 

Not every rush is a hit. Most of these guys slide or get out of bounds before the hit.

 

And quarterbacks also take hits other than rushing plays and sacks. What about the times they get the ball off under pressure?

 

Somewhere on the internet there has to be a semi-accurate listing of hits taken by a QB. Adding rushes and sacks is not the best way.