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NFL offseason thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 3_Octave_Fart, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the Chiefs have absolutely no leverage regarding Cassel. They pretty much have to release him because I doubt anyone's dumb enough to trade for him.

    Then again, I may be overestimating a couple of NFL GMs.
     
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Smith is coachable and will do fine under Reid. He's never going to be a top QB, but he could be a solid starter in KC for the next 5-7 years... I'm just curious if the pick is a No. 2 or a No. 3.
     
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'd be stunned if they could even get a conditional pick for him.
     
  4. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Smith for the Chiefs' 2nd (#34) and a similar pick next year? I am blown away. I thought at best the Niners would get the Chiefs' 3rd this year (which is essentially almost a 2nd.) There must really have been some alternatives out there (hello Arizona/Buffalo).

    I love Smith's intangibles; but as a pure QB not so much. Usually guys with intangibles (which means less than ideal physical tools; think Montana/Tarkenton/Gannon/Kilmer) they succeed because they are not afraid to make a mistake and they get it done somehow. Smith is the exact 180; he's succeeded (recently) by being so afraid of the mistake he is purely mistake-free QBing. Not sure that translates on a 2-14 Chiefs team.

    Niners get $8.5M of salary relief and almost a 1st rounder? Baalke did a great job.
     
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    What intangibles did Alex Smith have before Jim Harbaugh came along?
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    He was pretty tough. That guy took a vicious beating, physically and mentally, for six years.

    That's about the best you can say, though.

    Still go back to the Urban Meyer quote when Smith was coming out of college and Meyer said Smith would be "non-functional" until he knew the entire offense. Just not an improvisational guy. So it could be a long transition and a rocky start.
     
  7. JosephC.Myers

    JosephC.Myers Active Member

    A high second and another similar pick next year is a lot to get for him. Can't knock the 49ers for taking that deal. Chiefs may have overpaid for Smith, but they know they've upgraded at quarterback and didn't totally have to break the bank to do it, so that's a good thing for them.
     
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The fastest way for a real bad team to leap up to mediocrity is error avoidance. Cut down the penalties and turnovers, and 2-14 can become 6-10 without making any other changes. Getting a quarterback who's obsessive about it is a good way to jump start that process.
     
  9. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Will you still say they did not break the bank when those 2 2nds become an All-Pro DT and Pro Bowl CB (optimistic thinking)?
     
  10. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    Reid has gotten production out of every QB he's ever worked with. I don't think that will change with Smith. The question is whether he can get sustained production out of him. If I'm a Chiefs fan, I'm happy they got an upgrade at the position and didn't waste their top pick, but I'm wondering what the ceiling is with the new guy.

    On a related note, the Chiefs defense is talented, so if that unit plays to its ability, Smith is a good fit.
     
  11. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    How is it that a guy like Mangus Hunt isn't rated higher:

    Hunt is a fast-rising prospect who measured in at 6-8, 277 pounds, and showed strength (38 reps at 225 pounds) and speed (4.6) at the combine.

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130227/nfl-mock-draft-2/#ixzz2M7sO43E8

    Perhaps he's just a workout wonder? My god what a speciman.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Sounds Mamula-ish.
     
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