NFL offseason thread

But that's a double-edged sword, too. Do they take a QB that early, setting him up to be more likely a complete bust for that spot and continue their problems at the position? Or do they intentionally wait, figuring the difference between the second-best and sixth-best QB in this class is really no different and gambling at least one of them will be there when they pick in a later round?

 

The problem from the Chiefs' perspective is that they didn't need to give up so much to get Smith. They basically bid against themselves. Nobody else was going to give up even a second-round pick, much less throw in another pick. If the Chiefs had simply waited it out, they could have gotten Smith for much less.

No matter what the 49ers say, they were not going to keep Smith for another year. The Chiefs got taken and taken bad. Not because they aren't better off now - they are - but because they paid more than they needed to. Possibly a lot more.

And to top it off, they'll have to pay Smith because he only has two years left on his current deal.

 

STFU? Really? The new regime has won exactly zero games so far. I'll bitch as much as I want to until they show me some success on the field. Until then, you can shut the fuck up.

 

I'd feel a lot better taking someone like Glennon, Wilson or Nassib in the second round than I would taking Barkley in the first. I think Geno Smith has enough upside that he won't fall out of the top 10, more because that's when the teams with the real QB need are picking, but if he falls out of the top 10, he could fall for awhile... I don't think that will happen, especially with all these rumors about Philly and Oakland being interested...

 

OK, by that idiotic rationale, they should have kept Pioli/Crennel/Cassel, because they've at least won games. Right?

So if this Smith trade is so wrong, then what would you have done differently to address the QB situation? Don't just stomp your feet and say, "Not that!", but say what your answer to fix things would have been.

 

I get not being excited about Smith. I get thinking they gave up too much to get him. But, if the immediate goal is for the Chiefs to get better, there is almost no way the addition of Smith and Reid doesn't make them significantly better.

 

It should make them significantly better.

I'd also be better off with a new car. If I spent $60,000 and ended up with a Chevy Malibu I'd be pretty disappointed in myself. Even if I was riding a bike and needed a new car anyway.

 

Without a doubt the Chiefs are better of now than they were two months ago — by an order of magnitude.

But the thing is, like nmmetsfan, I think the Chiefs way overpaid for Smith; a third-round pick would have — or should have — gotten the job done. And either way, I don't think any Chiefs fans sees Smith as anything more than another stopgap QB. He's certainly better than what KC has had the last few years, but I don't think anyone would rate him in even the top 15 QBs in the league.

The Chiefs need to draft and develop a franchise quarterback. By taking Smith, they've set back the clock on that likely happening by three or four years at least.

But, hey, if they make the playoffs next season, I'll buy the T-shirt.

 

How in the world could you or anybody else possibly know what else the 49ers might have gotten or were offered?

 

Maybe the Chiefs paid too much. But that's a game of chicken they couldn't afford to play. If they dig their heels in the sand and say they will pay nothing more than one third-round pick, then pick up the paper and see Smith being traded to the Bills/Jets/Browns/Jaguars/Titans/Raiders/Cardinals, what's the Plan B? Stick with Cassel for another year and try to lowball another team for their backup QB?

And who is this "franchise" quarterback they are going to draft and develop? Every team in need of a QB can say they need to do that, but who is that guy and where will he be drafted?

 

The 49ers were content to wait it out to try to create a market. They practically said that much a few days ago. That they got the deal done this quickly shows they were overwhelmed by KC's offer.

Who was going to give San Francisco better than the 34th pick in the draft? It doesn't make sense.

 

Of course every team needs a franchise quarterback, but I didn't make my point clearly enough. The Chiefs haven't had a true franchise QB since Dawson. Todd Blackledge was serviceable enough, but not compared to Elway and Marino.

The Chiefs in recent memory have drafted clods like Ricky Sanzi and looked through the free agency dregs or through trades for their quarterback. It seems they haven't even TRIED to develop a QB. A lot of that can be blamed on Carl Peterson, but when it's been so long, you begin to wonder if it's institutional.