NFL offseason thread

But...but...he believed in building around cornerbacks! That justifies overspending on them!

 

I evaluate those Cowboys teams having watched them closely.
Not all of us on these threads started watching pro football in 2001.
Don't post to me, OK? That will rid me of your idiocy, and please the moderators.

 

You jumped into a discussion I was involved in, so you have no business whining about me responding to you.

I saw enough of Brown with the Cowboys and with the Raiders to know Davis was making a mistake before he made it and then see my thoughts on the move confirmed.

I'm fairly certain Norrin was watching the NFL long before 2001 and I certainly did, so that part of your comment really doesn't apply at all.

 

The discussion had moved on to the Larry Brown signing and you jumped into that. Amazing how you keep hurling the insults yet I keep having to explain the simplest things to you.

And I honestly couldn't care less about your fake courtesy. If you want to have a discussion on a public thread, it is open to anybody to jump in. Don't like it? That's just too bad.

 

The Ravens aren't stupid enough to give him Brees money.

Maybe you slap him with the exclusive franchise tag and then use that as a bargaining chip to get him to later agree to a longterm deal with guaranteed money. If Brees' deal was 5-years $100 million, I would expect Flacco to sign something in the 6-year worth a little over $100 million range, averaging between $17-$18 million a year, which as crazy as it is to say, is probably the going rate for a player like Flacco.

 

Flacco has all the leverage here Mizzou. The Ravens can't afford to risk losing him at the lower franchise salary, can't afford the cap hit of the higher franchise tag salary, and can't afford to let him go in any case. Why is he worth less than Brees? How on earth would the Ravens come close to finding a replacement for him?

 

The thing is, signing a guy to one of these deals makes it a lot harder to win. I don't think it's any coincidence that the Pats won their three SBs before Brady became an MVP-level megastar with the contract to match. I've lost sight of Peyton's deal, but I think he got the huge ginormous extension after the championship. Ditto Brees last year. Rodgers is in line for one.

It cripples the rest of your team. That's why I think the Niners' window stays open the longest, they are forbidden from opening Kaepernick's deal this year, and even after next year they should be able to get him relatively cut-rate.

 

I agree about the Niners... If they're able to get something in return for Smith and get his $8.5 million salary off the books, I can't imagine how they would not be the favorite next season unless one of the other contenders really made a big move in free agency or the draft, which I doubt they can because of cap reasons...

The Packers were smart enough to sign Rodgers to an extension during his first season as a starter and it probably saved them a fortune. The next extension is what will kill them.

I'm not sure I agree that Flacco has all the leverage. I doubt he wants to be hit with the exclusive rights tag since his stock isn't likely to ever be higher than it is now...

 

The only reason he would be worth what Brees is is that he's younger... He has a ring and that's great and he was fantastic in the Super Bowl... He's still not an elite quarterback... The Ravens should want to keep him, but not at $20 million a year.

 

The exclusive rights tag guarantees him like $20 million, doesn't it? If he gets that he is already ahead of the game on an extension. Unless if his whole career is shot to hell in the next 12 months he would still get a minimum of $10-15 million on the open market. The combination of those two payments means Flacco can't lose in this negotiation.

 

Flacco wants an extension because nowadays contracts are being guaranteed, either wih the bonus or actual years; that's better than a one year $20m contract, if he gets hurt not sure even gets the whole 20

 

He gets 20 from the Ravens this year.

Then he gets 10-15 in the worst case next year, probably even if he does get hurt. (There are very few truly career-threatening injuries for a guy in his 20s these days.)

So if he does nothing now, he's locking in $30-35M in upfront over the next two years. That's the number the Ravens are working against, and the reason Flacco has all the leverage.