NFL playoff thread

If you want to make an argument that Manning couldn't play well enough outdoors, you don't need his team's record to make your case.

 

Bamboozlement. Preternatural.

 

Jan. 11, 2004. Arrowhead Stadium. Temperature: 40 degrees. Wind: 16 mph

Colts 38, Chiefs 31
Manning 22 of 30, 304 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200401110kan.htm

 

His first playoff win. Fun front page that day.

 

Second. Beat Denver 41-10 the previous week.

 

You got me. 40 on the number. Got any more? Can we have a five degree variable here? Any other wins under 45 degrees? Should I start posting his splits from various seasons that, for the most part, show a 10-point difference in QB rating from indoors to outdoors? And that his interception rate is significantly higher outdoors?

If were going to use stats to argue that Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback in NFL history -- and what else could we use, I guess? -- let's at least acknowledge that all stats are not created equal. Just acknowledge it. That's all I'm asking for.

 

Crap, I knew that. Another fun front page.

Giant headline was 'Any questions?'

But I've now grown to dislike Manning and say mean things about him to justify my feelings. [/rickstain]

 

Hall of Fame quarterback whose playoff record isn't what it should be.

But he's got a ring and led the Colts to a second Super Bowl.

What more do they want from him again?

 

Point taken. Change my previous post from "bad quarterback" to "under-performing his usual statistics in the playoffs quarterback" and my point still stands.

 

I agree with this. The 3 Super Bowls/overall success with 3 different QBs gives him the edge in my book.

 

So guys, then, what is it that makes Peyton Manning's teams sub-.500 in the playoffs, and his offenses unable to measure up, even when those teams have been among the NFL's best offenses and had double-digit winning streaks during those regular seasons?

Just bad luck?

 

Unless I misread you (which is entirely possible) this seems to move the goal posts a bit. I completely agree that A. It is easier to play QB indoors and B. Peyton Manning spent most of his career playing indoors.
My disagreement comes with using the record of Manning's teams to reach the conclusion that Manning under-performs in the playoffs. The stats just don't back that up.