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NFL playoff thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YGBFKM, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    What difference does the mode make? Hell, coming through like that in the fourth quarter is usually considered a good thing, not a failure.

    Also, we're back to blaming Manning for his kicker choking with the game on the line.
     
  2. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    So glad the 49ers don't have to play the Rams or the Giants on Sunday.
     
  3. Norrin Radd

    Norrin Radd New Member

    Only one of those invented an offense - though due to circumstance rather than just his own brilliance - that swept the league, led to new defenses being created, and which continues to baffle defenses even today.

    The extenuating circumstance that day was that the opponent is hated by the Playoff Football Gods.

    Really?

    So he was 2-1 that postseason?

    Wow, so seven of his nine career playoff wins came in three postseasons?

    Fascinating.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Let's put it this way:

    THROUGH THREE QUARTERS
    Roethlisberger 14-22, 197, 2 TDs, 1 INT
    Manning 13-25, 130, 0 TDs, 0 INT

    Manning outgained Roethlisberger 160 yards to zero in the fourth quarter. Do you think maybe it's more likely a quarterback will pile up passing stats when his team is trailing by three scores than leading by three scores?

    But, I know. It's the kicker's fault. It's the safety's fault that Manning had to play overtime Saturday. It's the Rules Committee's fault that the Patriots picked him off four times. It's somebody else's fault that he threw three straight incomplete passes from the 7-yard line in that loss to the Chargers in January 2008. It's Reggie Wayne's fault that Wayne couldn't get open in January 2011 -- that guy must have nothing left, right?

    Peyton Manning has the worst fucking luck.
     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    But those are not unique --- to playoff QBs, I mean.

    Brady's Patriots won games in which his team scored 16, 20, 17 and 20 points. They lost games in which his team scored 13, 14, 14, 21 and 17 points. There was an eight-game playoff stretch with zero 300-yard games and three games with 3 INTs.

    Each of those games could be called an offense not measuring up to its regular-season success. But because four of them ended in victory, the five losses are more easily forgotten.

    Elway had a litany of playoff stinkers --- 123 yds., 184 yds., 108 yds., 121 yds., 170 yds., 123 yds. --- far more than Manning. And his 27 TD/21 INT ratio is worse than Manning. His first Super Bowl victory came with 0 TD passes, 1 INT and 12 completions.

    Was that measuring up to what we should have expected?

    Or did it all not matter because he had that cool helicopter play and, of course, his team won?
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Elway's team was losing to the likes of the Giants, Redskins and 49ers. Those were vastly superior teams. Not even the same game.

    Manning's teams lose to teams that they easily outpace, both in overall record and head-to-head matchup, in the regular season.
     
  7. Norrin Radd

    Norrin Radd New Member

    Correction:

    Eight of Manning's nine career playoff victories occurred in three postseasons.

    1-9 otherwise.

    My bad. I do strive for accuracy.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I would take Tee Martin as my QB before I would take Manning
     
  9. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    They were? The only team among those that was vastly superior was the '89 49ers.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Wow, you can't be serious with that. It was men against boys especially along the lines. AFC was strictly JV football then, losing 13 Super Bowls in a row. (But, to just go by overall records, the '86 Giants were also 14-2 to the Broncos' 11-5.)
     
  11. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    The '86 Giants were a notch below the '85 Bears. No one was beating that team that year.
     
  12. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Guess the Colts should have won the SB with Sorgi last year then.
     
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