NFL playoff thread

no worries, drip.... i'm not saying someone should go in cold with nothing fresh to offthere is a relevant fresh voice to gain perspective from or input from other lawyers/d.a.'s not involved in the case to find out how a deal like this goes down; i understand the men who stood trial were ultimately . i'm not saying someone should toss up a hand grenade of a lazy question to ray. ehave to do their homework, see if if there's a fresh perspective. speak to a couple of the jurors. whatever.

hey, if anything, no doubt this affected ray by making him reassess his ways, his friemds, the way he was living his life, and helped form him into the 'role model' he's being sold to us today. that's not a great story?

 

i actually heard ray on an nfl network clip last night saying that very thing -- he goes to younger guys (suggs and ray rice were two he mentioned) and tries to advise them on what to do and also what NOT to do from experience. That's the packaging the league will be selling this week, I have a strong feeling.

 

Such a big threat to run that he had all of 23 yards the entire regular season. Sure, Manning won't scramble like that any more. He is one of maybe four or five quarterbacks in the league who are less of a threat to run than Flacco.

 

No question that's a great story. The rejuvenation of Ray Lewis has the potential to be an outstanding read.

 

I guess Suggs was wrong.
http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-wes-welker-logan-mankins-vince-wilfork-withdraw-from-pro-bowl/

 

and on the heels of the Baseball HOF snub Bonds and Clemens, the liar Armstrong and faux Te'o you'd think sports journalists would stop being hand fed baby food and calling it lobster and start asking harder questions, looking behind the stories being told and finding out the truth behind the propaganda.

Are the players' charities really charitable? Are they really working with the disadvantaged kids or just showing up for photo-ops? Are their friends on their payroll?

Why is keeping-it-real so important and is it the downfall of the young millionaires?

But what the sporting news consumer is going to get is the baby food.

 

I think the "Is Ray Lewis a complete phony?" story is a great one. But, you have to be open to the premise that not ALL of it is phony bullshit. Which people here clearly are not.

The truth is always somewhere in the middle. I think a lot of his crap is all part of his branding. His act. I also think he believes he's a Christian and that the path to heaven is earned by good works. As I said on one of the Lance Armstong threads, are the acts invalidated if the person is insincere? It's a complicated question.

I think Ray Lewis obviously did not stab anyone that night. In fact, several people testified he was trying to get people in the limo to end the fight (which started by the way when one of the two guys who got stabbed SMASHED A CHAMPANGE BOTTLE over someone's head). I think it's a fact Ray Lewis lied to police before rolling over and testifying for the prosecution. Why people think this means Lewis = murderer, I cannot say. Because it makes for a good dig? Because Ray Lewis is an asshole? Well, Ray Lewis is kind of an asshole. I agree. But I'm not sure why playing in important football games means he should ANSWER FOR HIMSELF again and again. He's already done the "I had to change my life" apology tour several places, including Yahoo Sports, SI, The Baltimore Sun, etc. people just didn't seem to be paying attention.

I think he should get asked about the incident again, especially since the last time he was in a Super Bowl he was dealing with it (although dealing with it is relative; pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice before the season started). But this idea where every media member should shout "Bloody suit! Bloody suit!" at him and refuse to ask football questions to prove how tough they are? Pu-lease.

This world some people live in where Lewis is celebrated as a "hero" seems to only exist in the color commentary of NFL broadcasts. I've never once read a story about him where the first comment underneath the story wasn't "Thug. Murderer."

A lot of people can't stand the dude and that's understandable. At times during his career, I couldn't stand him either. But he'd didn't skate in the evidence or get away with murdering people he wanted dead. That just makes for a better quip, especially because he's such an attention whore.

 

What does anyone really expect him to say when questioned about the suit or that night? Do you really think he is going to come clean?

These two weeks are about the game. You keep asking about Lewis's past, you make it about him. Save these questions for his HOF tour.

 

Ya, that would be the perfect time.

 

You do know ass.

 

I'd actually love to get some insight into why Lewis is so addicted to attention. That kind of thing is totally foreign to me, so it always fascinates me as to the reasons people actively seek to make themselves the center of attention.

 

Letters, you do it here all the time. It's just a much, much, much smaller stage.