NFL playoff thread

Not 20,000.

 

So which is it, quantity or quality?

Either way, I think the point you tried (and failed miserably) to make was that you'll likely be able to find more AFFORDABLE tickets on StubHub if RG3 isn't playing, which is absolutely true.

 

why not just have a single elimination tourney of all teams with a .500 or better record?

 

He's apparently in surgery right now. If he can be healthy and ready for the season opener, I mean, jeez. Can't ask for much more than that as a Skins fan. I'll take it. Cautiously.

Do we know if Andrews is wearing that beanie during surgery? I hope so.

 

FYI, if you want a few good laughs, go back and read the NFL Draft thread from last year. Good stuff.

 

I think, as a 23-year-old world-class athlete, he'll be "ready." However, I'm not sure anyone can fully "recover" from a second ACL reconstruction. He may have an occasional 50-yard run in him, but the guy who was a threat to do what he did against Minnesota on EVERY play is probably gone forever. That's a shame.

It will be very interesting to see what the Shanahans do with the offense next year. If they want to protect him -- especially early on -- they have to transition from the Pistol/zone-read schemes that put pressure on the defense but also put the QB at much greater risk to a more conservative passing attack. If that leads to a rough start, then the pressure will be on the main Shanny to recapture the magic. At that point, what does he do?

 

Probably gone forever? Eh. I mean, it's possible, but I wouldn't be so sure. I still think there's a very good chance he'll be the exact same player athletically, or about as close to it as you can get. But he'll also be smarter.

 

this is no second-guess, simply an irrefutable FACT regarding shanahan's tunnelvision and refusal to look out for the long-term brest interests of even his most valuble players/investments. he has a long history of thiss once the action begins; he loses all perspective. shanahan, not the 22-year-old hero quarterback who believes he's invincible, nor the most renowned knee specialist in the world, was the person most responsible for protecting his team's investment and for protecting the hero qb from himself. and the steely-eyed coach even intoidates the renowned surgeon to the point the doctor backtracks on his own best insstincts to insure his reputation remains intact.

no second-guess here. when will these ego-maniacal, all-powerful coaches leran that THEY are the ones who need protection from themselves. as sally points out in her brilliant column today, no matter how defensive shanahan is when showing the public his ridicuously arrogant face over this, is there any doubt that shanahan, most of all, is beating himself up for his gross negligence?

per usual, sally nails it all -- and shanahan -- better than anyone else i've read to date she is brilliant: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-invested-in-robert-griffin-iii-then-everyone-put-his-future-in-jeopardy/2013/01/08/66bf6df8-59b3-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.html

leave it to shanahan, a coach desperate to recapture the super bowl touch 15 years after john elway, to put rgIII in position to transform from superman into just another gimpy-kneed football hero, to contribute so mightily to rgIII going from this athletic marvel into just one more run of the mill quarterback -- still capable of stardom but also exposed as possibly just one more in a long line of 'could've beens' and cautionary tales.

 

He's no Adrian Peterson.

In all seriousness, the reality is that if he really does play smarter he won't have many chances to be the same player athletically. You either play with abandon and a risk-reward style or you dial it back and adjust your game for self-preservation.

You can't have it both ways.

 

By my count, Shanahan had no less than four obvious opportunities to yank Griffin from the game for everyone's good prior to the final injury. He passed on every one. That's stupid verging on pathological.
Forecasts on injury recovery are perhaps the most foolish form of speculation in sports. There's a total lack of knowledge at work here. How many posters on this board were even pre-med?

 

Oh, would you stop it?

Most people who speculate on recovery time are going based on what they hear from reporters and other experts, like doctors who are interviewed about it. Or, you know, past cases of recovery from certain injuries.

If everyone had to be an expert on subject matter here, there'd be no discussion at all. Ever.

 

Well, it's interesting... If you go to a regular doctor and ask them how long recovery is from a partially torn ligament, you'll likely be told 3-4 months... For most professional athletes, it's 4-6 weeks. There are players who get scoped during the week and play that weekend. I know regular people who are out of work and in bed for 1-2 weeks after getting scoped.

I always found the best way to get straight answers from team doctors and trainers (when they would actually talk to you) would be to ask them in a general sense. Not "How long until you think Griffin will be able to play?" but "With a torn ligament how long is recovery for a typical NFL player?" They will be a lot more forthcoming if it is made clear they are not being asked a direct question about a specific player. It sounds stupid, but it makes a big difference...