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NFL Week 12 -- I Wish Turkey Only Cost A Nickel

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Cosmo, Nov 22, 2023.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I mean, if you're giving your No. 3 a start at any point in the season it's probably a sign that things have gone horribly wrong somewhere along the way. Doesn't really matter who it is.

    They obviously brought in Rodgers expecting him to start 17 games (or at least 15-16) and not expecting him to have a season-ending injury in the first quarter of Week 1. I assumed they kept Wilson on the roster since he was a bit of a sunk cost, then kept starting him because he was the best of the bad options. If Rodgers is starting every week then there wasn't much harm in keeping Wilson around as the backup and seeing if you can take one last stab at salvaging him.
    You're never imagining the doomsday scenario they've encountered. In a realistic worst-case scenario you're thinking maybe they have to get by with him for 3-4 games and the defense can play well enough to hold the line — which is more or less what's happened. For all of their faults the Jets were 4-3 through seven games. It's kind of the same thing as last year. Wilson can probably keep you around .500, which is what you want from your backup QB. He is a viable backup, he's just not a starter for the long haul. The Jets were suddenly screwed not because they kept him as a backup, but because they needed him for the long haul.
     
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  2. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    This is, of course, true, but the Jets deluded themselves into thinking they could maybe steal a playoff berth w/Wilson b/c they absolutely positively miraculously lucked their way into three straight wins before the trade deadline to improve to 4-3. And it was really four straight solid performances, because the Chiefs were kicking the shit out of them early on Oct. 1 but the Jets got off the canvas and almost pulled it out before losing 23-20.

    Of course, the problems were the wins came over the Broncos two weeks after the Dolphins debacle and before Payton tied Russ's arms behind his back. Then the Jets won w/the benefit of a questionable decision by the Eagles (Hurts throws a pick on 3rd-and-9 from just before midfield right after the two-minute warning, Tony Adams returns it to the 8 and Breece Hall scores on the next play) and the absolute positive worst coaching decision in NFL history by dipshit Brian Daboll (who should have been fired on the spot for trying to kick a field goal w/a one-legged Graham Gano instead of going for it on 4th-and-1 at the Jets' 17 w/17 seconds left and the Jets out of timeouts, I still can;'t believe that happened).

    Coupled w/the miracle walkoff punt return win over the Bills in the season opener, you're looking at a team that, with just three different flaps of a butterfly's wings, is 1-10 and looking at the no. 1 pick in April. That would have actually been the best thing for the Jets. Instead of picking early in the first round--but not early enough to pick a QB--the worst-case scenario w/the no. 1 pick is they take a QB and he sits a year behind Rodgers. It's more likely Rodgers would have bitched his way out of New Jersey and the no. 1 pick would have had a clear path to the job. Of course, the Jets would have fucked him up. It's what they do.
     
  3. Junkie

    Junkie Well-Known Member

    There’s perhaps nothing more telling about the state of the NFL than Josh Dobbs being the solution to almost everybody’s problems.
     
  4. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    For the past what 5 yrs? Dobbs was simply the smart guy who happened to be a QB. He’s not the next coming of Kurt Warner. He’s had a couple of good games. I’m rooting for him but he’s not some first stringer. Did you not see him in the Tenn playoff game last year?
     
  5. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Bears.
     
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  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I didn't watch the game, but I assume this is what you are talking about. That's just ugly and it's all about the turf.

    Dolphins LB Phillips suffers right Achilles injury
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I did. Trust me, I've been on your side of these conversations with Steelers fans who are pissed that they let him go. They did it twice, by the way. They traded him, got him back, then let him go.

    He's not great, but he's better than the shitshow the Jets have put on the field this season.
     
  8. Junkie

    Junkie Well-Known Member

    I saw Kelly Holcomb throw for 400 yards in a playoff game once. Sometimes even journeymen have a great day. Dobbs has been on seven teams in six years, two of those teams twice. Teams found Mason Rudolph and Dorian Thompson-Robinson preferable, among other nobodies. There’s a reason for that. (Other than incompetence on the teams’ part.)
     
  9. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    I thought J.R. “Bob” Dobbs was the solution to almost everybody’s problems.


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  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    He won’t even be the solution to the Vikings’ problems.
     
  11. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    The Dodgers won 100 games with basically no starting pitchers this year. Hockey teams, with the hardest cap (hi @outofplace!) in sports, always make the playoffs at a lot less than full strength. Load management (management) ensures there are no great NBA teams. But in the NFL, you can have a generational defense, and if your QB takes a bad step four snaps into the season, it's all over. Great product! It's good that an entire team's fortunes are determined by a single player! And we'll all be tuned in tomorrow for our various betting purposes.
     
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  12. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Here’s a suggestion, separate QB cap.
     
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