NHL 2013: Off-Season Running Thread

Starman · Jul 20, 2012

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JC said:

Starman said:

Beef03 said:

NHL owners: Hey NHLPA, ignore that we are making this 14-year, $100-million offer foe Shea Webber, we are still broke and need you to give us 54% of all revenue

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=400969

Predators of course have seven days to match or else I believe they get five first round picks the next five years.

I do feel for Predators fans. Been there, went through that.

Crazy yo.
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Guess what they are going to go for in the CBA: The right to terminate any contract at any point.

In other words, all these decade-plus contracts are complete funny money. The players will never see 75% of that money.
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Wrong. You haven't been right on any of your CBA gloom in any sport
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Why wouldn't the owners want what their fellow moguls in the NFL enjoy?

It's so annoying to actually have to PAY players after you shell out these massive contracts.

And, the NHL owners are the ones who actually pulled the trigger on a whole season not so long ago. They won then, they'll win again.

Beef03 · Jul 20, 2012

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JC said:

Beef03 said:

JC said:

Herbert Anchovy said:

Nashville is in a real pickle here. Either they slip further into the abyss or blow their pay structure sky high.
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They need to work out a deal with the Lyers for some of their good NHL ready young talent or simply match. They can't take the picks.
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They tried going after Couturier and or Brayden Schenn, according to Dreger, and the Flyers said no. Again, in my books this falls into the Nash category, trying to get something for nothing or at a giant discounted rate. Only this time the Flyers have the chance to follow through with the RFA offer. And I'm not knocking them in this case, they are using the current CBA the way it was meant to be used.
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If they don't work out a trade I can't see them getting Weber. Do you think the Preds will just take the picks? Maybe they will but I don't think they can sell that to their fan base
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My question would be now that the RFA contract process has been started, can a trade be worked out on the side, is there room for that in the CBA? I'm sure the Preds would love to, especially if they could get a Brayden Schenn out of the deal, but are they allowed to now?

Elliotte Friedman · Jul 20, 2012

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Weber cannot be traded for one year. The only trade that can be done is if Nashville declines to match and deals some/all of the picks back to Philly for players.

But, I think they will match.

Beef03 · Jul 20, 2012

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Elliotte Friedman said:

Weber cannot be traded for one year. The only trade that can be done is if Nashville declines to match and deals some/all of the picks back to Philly for players.

But, I think they will match.
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Right, but between now and the expiration of their seven day window to match, can he be traded instead of taking the picks?

Cape_Fear · Jul 20, 2012

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Beef03 said:

Elliotte Friedman said:

Weber cannot be traded for one year. The only trade that can be done is if Nashville declines to match and deals some/all of the picks back to Philly for players.

But, I think they will match.
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Right, but between now and the expiration of their seven day window to match, can he be traded instead of taking the picks?
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No because he's a free agent. Nashville doesn't have his rights at the moment to trade.

JC · Jul 20, 2012

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Beef03 said:

Elliotte Friedman said:

Weber cannot be traded for one year. The only trade that can be done is if Nashville declines to match and deals some/all of the picks back to Philly for players.

But, I think they will match.
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Right, but between now and the expiration of their seven day window to match, can he be traded instead of taking the picks?
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No, it would have to be an agreement where Nashville trades the 4 firsts back to Philly. The minute they match they can't trade him for a year. If they match there is no way they are trading him after paying him 26 mill in that first year.

Comes down to a prearranged agreement. If we don't match you give us Schenn, Coburn and two firsts for example and we give you back those picks. Weber does not want to be inNashville, this scenario makes the most sense to me, for both teams.

Sea Bass · Jul 20, 2012

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I think you can trade RFA's...Kessel to Toronto for example.

JC · Jul 20, 2012

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Sea Bass said:

I think you can trade RFA's...Kessel to Toronto for example.
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Not after they have signed the offer sheet. If a trade is made you are trading back the compensation.

Cape_Fear · Jul 20, 2012

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Sea Bass said:

I think you can trade RFA's...Kessel to Toronto for example.
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You can only do that prior to July 1 when the contracts expire.

Beef03 · Jul 23, 2012

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The Rick Nash saga is finally over.
Heads to the Rangers for Anisimov, Dubinsky, Tim Erixon and a first round pick.

I actually don't think Howson did terribly here. He was never going to win this deal, but they did just get a whole lot better.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=401276

JR · Jul 23, 2012

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Howson was looking for a lot more at the trade deadline than this.

Under the circumstances, not a horrible deal but Rangers won it.

Interesting to see how Nash plays under Tortorella. Has Nash ever seen his own end?

Beef03 · Jul 23, 2012

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JR said:

Howson was looking for a lot more at the trade deadline than this.

Under the circumstances, not a horrible deal but Rangers won it.

Interesting to see how Nash plays under Tortorella. Has Nash ever seen his own end?
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The Blue Jackets were never going to win this deal. They got three solid young players -- maybe not a definitive star -- and a first round pick. I think they did alright.

And Nash did play for Hitchcock for a few seasons, so he definitely has played in his own end,

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