NHL awards/draft/off-season/training camp/preseason running thread

ondeadline · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

The Fan 590 in Toronto says Battaglia will re-sign with the Leafs.

Tommy_Dreamer · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

hockeybeat said:

Cansportschick said:

Bring the Cup to Colorado....I am calling it now.
With the acquisitions of Smyth and Hannan, the AVS are poised to do damage in the Western Conference and league this season.
Can you imagine a top line of Sakic centring Smyth and Hedjuk? WOW!!!
I was worried a little about their D, but getting Hannan was a wise move.
Theodore does concern me a bit...and that grandspanking contract, ouch!
Budaj is solid in goal for the AVS and last year's rookie standout, Stastny is strong too.

So much for my wished of a Leafs/AVS Stanley Cup final....the Leafs have done nothing to assure me that they are a better team and Ferguson will be out by November, guaranteed.
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Getting a 40-goal scorer in Blake doesn't make the Leafs better?

And The Cup ain't going to Denver. It's headed to Broadway. I can't wait until the dweeby dwarf squeaks, "Captain Jaromir Jagr, come get The Cup!"
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Eternal optimism blooms in the off-season! I hope you're right HB. If you are there's gonna be a party like no other in Tommy_D land!

Mayfly · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

Why not just bring the Cup to Philadelphia.....in two years.

I am liking the signings, even though Breier got way too many years. Plus, with the two trades they made, I may actually watch the Flyers again.

ondeadline · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

I record SportsCenter on DVR every night and watch it the next day. That way, I can fast-forward through the crap and watch what I want. Time spent on all the moves in the NHL? Sadly, 26.9 seconds.

hockeybeat · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

Mayfly said:

Why not just bring the Cup to Philadelphia.....in two years.

I am liking the signings, even though Breier got way too many years. Plus, with the two trades they made, I may actually watch the Flyers again.
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Not sure the Flyers have the goaltending or defense corps to win a Cup.

hockeybeat · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

Tommy_Dreamer said:

hockeybeat said:

Cansportschick said:

Bring the Cup to Colorado....I am calling it now.
With the acquisitions of Smyth and Hannan, the AVS are poised to do damage in the Western Conference and league this season.
Can you imagine a top line of Sakic centring Smyth and Hedjuk? WOW!!!
I was worried a little about their D, but getting Hannan was a wise move.
Theodore does concern me a bit...and that grandspanking contract, ouch!
Budaj is solid in goal for the AVS and last year's rookie standout, Stastny is strong too.

So much for my wished of a Leafs/AVS Stanley Cup final....the Leafs have done nothing to assure me that they are a better team and Ferguson will be out by November, guaranteed.
Click to expand...

Getting a 40-goal scorer in Blake doesn't make the Leafs better?

And The Cup ain't going to Denver. It's headed to Broadway. I can't wait until the dweeby dwarf squeaks, "Captain Jaromir Jagr, come get The Cup!"
Click to expand...

Eternal optimism blooms in the off-season! I hope you're right HB. If you are there's gonna be a party like no other in Tommy_D land!
Click to expand...

I'm serious. On July 2, Tom Renney potentially has three good scoring lines, a good checking line, tons of speed; depth on the blueline and a great goaltender. There's no reason that the Rangers can't win The Cup this season or next.

Tommy_Dreamer · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

hockeybeat said:

Tommy_Dreamer said:

hockeybeat said:

Cansportschick said:

Bring the Cup to Colorado....I am calling it now.
With the acquisitions of Smyth and Hannan, the AVS are poised to do damage in the Western Conference and league this season.
Can you imagine a top line of Sakic centring Smyth and Hedjuk? WOW!!!
I was worried a little about their D, but getting Hannan was a wise move.
Theodore does concern me a bit...and that grandspanking contract, ouch!
Budaj is solid in goal for the AVS and last year's rookie standout, Stastny is strong too.

So much for my wished of a Leafs/AVS Stanley Cup final....the Leafs have done nothing to assure me that they are a better team and Ferguson will be out by November, guaranteed.
Click to expand...

Getting a 40-goal scorer in Blake doesn't make the Leafs better?

And The Cup ain't going to Denver. It's headed to Broadway. I can't wait until the dweeby dwarf squeaks, "Captain Jaromir Jagr, come get The Cup!"
Click to expand...

Eternal optimism blooms in the off-season! I hope you're right HB. If you are there's gonna be a party like no other in Tommy_D land!
Click to expand...

I'm serious. On July 2, Tom Renney potentially has three good scoring lines, a good checking line, tons of speed; depth on the blueline and a great goaltender. There's no reason that the Rangers can't win The Cup this season or next.
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We've got to resign Lundqvist though. I know the Rangers will, but I'd also like to have Shanny back as well.

hockeybeat · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

Tommy_Dreamer said:

hockeybeat said:

Tommy_Dreamer said:

hockeybeat said:

Cansportschick said:

Bring the Cup to Colorado....I am calling it now.
With the acquisitions of Smyth and Hannan, the AVS are poised to do damage in the Western Conference and league this season.
Can you imagine a top line of Sakic centring Smyth and Hedjuk? WOW!!!
I was worried a little about their D, but getting Hannan was a wise move.
Theodore does concern me a bit...and that grandspanking contract, ouch!
Budaj is solid in goal for the AVS and last year's rookie standout, Stastny is strong too.

So much for my wished of a Leafs/AVS Stanley Cup final....the Leafs have done nothing to assure me that they are a better team and Ferguson will be out by November, guaranteed.
Click to expand...

Getting a 40-goal scorer in Blake doesn't make the Leafs better?

And The Cup ain't going to Denver. It's headed to Broadway. I can't wait until the dweeby dwarf squeaks, "Captain Jaromir Jagr, come get The Cup!"
Click to expand...

Eternal optimism blooms in the off-season! I hope you're right HB. If you are there's gonna be a party like no other in Tommy_D land!
Click to expand...

I'm serious. On July 2, Tom Renney potentially has three good scoring lines, a good checking line, tons of speed; depth on the blueline and a great goaltender. There's no reason that the Rangers can't win The Cup this season or next.
Click to expand...

We've got to resign Lundqvist though. I know the Rangers will, but I'd also like to have Shanny back as well.
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Lundqvist and Avery are restricted free agents. Shanahan is a UFA, but has said he wants to be a Ranger next season. In a conference call last night, Tom Renney said he felt confident all three would be signed.

JR · Jul 2, 2007

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The "neutral zone trap" is nothing new in hockey. It has been around for decades. The left-wing lock, which Detroit and some other teams have employed lately does come out of Scandinavia. Also, JC is on the money. Clutching and grabbing is much more apparent in the European game than it is in the traditional North American game. The difference is that over there, they have bigger ice, so it doesn't tie things up nearly as much as it does here where you don't have the extra 15 feet of width.

Another thing that hurt hockey over the last decade was Bettman thinking he knew what would make it better. His moving the nets out to allow more room behind the net, a la Europe, was one of the biggest detriments to scoring. Instead of forcing shots on net, you can now tie it up behind the net for a fortnight. Even though they moved a bit to correct that, more could be done. And goalie pads are still too big.

Also on that note, removing the red line will make for more boring hockey and that we have seen in Canadian junior. If you thought the trap was bad before, now it's worse because the checkers can back up even further in the neutral zone. The red line forced quick short passes.

The game was good. I get to more than 100 junior games a year and actually, the hockey - not the skill level - but the flow of the game has been better than that NHL slop. To make the game good again, we should be going backward to take out the international flavour and Bettman's "innovations."
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Red Canuck hit all the points bang on.

It reminded me of our friend's FoF's blog on watching a Swedish elite game.

http://garejoycesgames.blogspot.com/2007/01/djurgardens-prison-blues-worst-game-of.html

After a short time I wondered if the Swedish elite league depended on captive audiences for its numbers--that it didn't need to paper the crowd but rather detain it. The game was awful. There was likely more hard hitting over at Stars on Ice than there was in this Swedish Elite League game. No forechecking whatsoever. In fact, when a defenceman would take the puck behind the net, the other team would leave the ice en masse and substitute five players, one of them actually skating as far forward as the opponents' blueline. A few times a defenceman wouldn't even bother to go behind the net to leave the puck for a forward circling back--he'd leave it in front of the net, about ten feet in front of the crease. Not like there was any danger that someone might chase it down--trap is not just the default mode, more like a matter of genetic coding. The build-up for plays was glacial.

sportschick · Jul 2, 2007

Re: 2007 NHL awards, draft and off-season running thread

hockeybeat said:

Mayfly said:

Why not just bring the Cup to Philadelphia.....in two years.

I am liking the signings, even though Breier got way too many years. Plus, with the two trades they made, I may actually watch the Flyers again.
Click to expand...

Not sure the Flyers have the goaltending or defense corps to win a Cup.
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They don't have the goaltending. They never have the goaltending. It was a problem when Lindros was there (before the concussions) and it's a problem now.

beefncheddar · Jul 2, 2007

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hockeybeat said:

Not sure the Flyers have the goaltending or defense corps to win a Cup.
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There's a reason you're not sure. It's because they don't even remotely have the defense or goaltending to win the Cup.

Just4Fun · Jul 2, 2007

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Robert Lang gets two-year deal with Chicago.

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