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NPR essay on losing "America's trust"

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Apr 9, 2024.

  1. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    If someone can’t figure out at this late date that one side is flawed but mainly grounded in reality and the other side is in thrall to habitual liars, then I have nothing more to discuss with them. Fair seas and following winds.
     
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  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Maybe if news coverage more accurately reflected conservative values, they’d stop complaining.*



    * — LOL.
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    They are. I’m not sure the full-scale “this not a story and what’s more, could be a hoax” squelching of the story before the election was rooted in complexity.

    It’s more, to question Biden is to help Trump so, how about not doing so much of those things. Which, if you believed Trump winning in 2020 or 2024 meant the end of democracy and the free press - which some NPR staffers may believe - then, perhaps, that kind of before-the-fact discernment is appropriate.
     
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  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    But again, no conservative outlet undertook that story either.

    And some of it turned out to be a . . . hoax.

    So it's not a slam dunk that somehow it's about helping Biden or "liberal" feelings.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Also, this, as regards Bari Weiss Pasteurized Processed Journalism Product™:

     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The NY Post, a conservative outlet, broke the story.
     
  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I wouldn’t have expected a whistleblower column to seek comment on how his opinion might be wrong. He shared his opinion for years with NPR leaders, they shrugged at his thoughts, so he told someone else.

    A more reasonable critique might be asking why he didn’t just quit since, after this, I can imagine some NPR staffers fainting at the idea of him editing their work.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    He didn't seek comment from anyone. It was his opinion as a former employee, not really a news story.

    A tweet that said, "HERE ARE the many things that detract from his conclusions," would be much less lazy. Did he do that tweet too?

    I still think it's much ado about nothing. NPR's audience doesn't care that it skews a certain way in what it covers and how it covers it. NPR is giving them what they are listening to NPR for in the first place! It's as silly as writing that Fox News isn't actually fair and balanced, and thinking there is a groundbreaking insight there. I get that he's saying that it's gotten more pronounced. ... but the "news" business as a whole has gotten that way.
     
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  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    It's not up to Berliner to seek a comment or response from NPR.

    It's up to the OpEd desk at the Free Press.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    And...what?

    I think the story got thrown out in the cold when however many intelligence officials, within one day of the story breaking, said the story had "classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Which, you know, maybe they believed that, independently of one another, one day after publishing, or maybe they got together and said, hell, this moment is too important to let Trump win because of it.

    This is all known stuff by most people around here.

    The question is - and has been for awhile - whether the threat of Trump simply outweighs not merely "objective" balance, but pointing out obvious shit that's not good, or even presenting his side of anything. Some network outlets won't show his speeches any more because of this presumed threat alongside the fear that some people won't know any better, and believe him.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2024
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    So why do we need to re-itemize all the "liberal" outlets that treated the story exactly like a Russian disinformation operation?

    If you go back and read across the coverage at the time, what's most apparent is that conservative outlets took the opportunity to accuse "liberal" outlets of ignoring the story - rather than actually reporting it out themselves.

    Also, I wouldn't go so far as to designate Berliner a "whistleblower."

    If he had a internal memo in his possession from leadership at NPR saying "don't cover Hunter Biden" - or any smoking gun at all, frankly - he'd be a "whistleblower."

    He's a guy complaining.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2024
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