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NYDN cover on San Bernadino

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Matt1735, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Shouldn't the paper wait 24 hours out of respect for the victims? Or is it only in bad taste to immediately politicize a tragedy when it happens outside the United States?
     
  2. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know if the 24-hour rule exists anymore. In 24 hours we could certainly have another mass shooting somewhere else.
     
  3. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I absolutely agree on trolling Twitter, but in this case that's the place of record for politicians' first reactions. I think it's completely reasonable to expect better. Perhaps one of them will soon say they were going to mention stronger gun control but, golly, that 140-character thing just keeps getting in the way.
     
  4. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Guess I'm not a legitimate journalist.

    I think it's great. Stop thinking and praying. Do something about it.
     
  5. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Did the Democratic candidates say anything, or are they waiting 24 hours?

    A very large cross-section of people offer thoughts and prayers when something like this happens. To pick and choose and highlight that for political purposes on the day of the shooting is irresponsible. If this was a follow-up cover, I'm fine with it, especially given the low bar of the tabloids. But day of, it's bad journalism, bad timing.
     
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  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    So if they cheated on their spouse they weren't innocent?

    Or if they bullied or antagonized the shooter?
     
  7. amraeder

    amraeder Well-Known Member

    I mean, hypothetically, one of them could have been a serial killer. Unlikely, obviously. But I assume that was more what MC was getting at. (Or maybe one of the victims raped and murdered the shooter's daughter, or, well, we could imagine a million abhorrent and unlikely possibilities).
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Disagree. Politicians do nothing to help combat the problem should not get a pass on their heartfelt tweets.
     
  9. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Well, you 're not a journalist.
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    If they were directly involved with whatever precipitated the shooting, they're not innocent. That doesn't mean they were asking for it, or deserved to die, or are bad people. It just means they were involved and therefore affected the consequence in some however-small way.

    The Sandy Hook kids were innocent.
     
  11. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Journalistically, why did they choose the four people they chose to "call out" on their front page? I would imagine hundreds of politicians or their staffs sent tweets encouraging support, thoughts, prayers etc. The cover appears agenda driven and that cheapens the point.
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Ouch.
     
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