Obama skewers Trump, gets skewered himself at White House Correspondent's Dinner

Exactly. Franken was with the show from its birth and he's the guy that wrote many of those legendary 1970s sketches that made the show. Calling him the worst SNL anything is beyond absurd, his early contributions are a large part of what created SNL.

 

Billy Crystal, Martin Short, Jon Lovitz, Julia-Louis Dreyfus, Phil Hartman, Jim Belushi, Robert Downey Jr., Jan Hooks, Dennis Miller, Kevin Nealon, Joan Cusack. That "vast wasteland of fail" launched a lot of damn successful careers.

 

I think probably refers to the early '80s group that surrounded Murphy (though you do mention Dreyfus and Belushi). Crystal and Short were brought in that one year that they hired some already-known veteran talent to jumpstart the franchise. The next year was the Hall, Downey, Cusack group, and although many in that cast proved to be very talented, it really wasn't one of the show's best years. Then, the year after that the Carvey and Hartman-led cast took over and got it back to being really good again.

 

I called Meyers the worst Update anchor in history. Someone else went in and changed what I wrote in a quote.

I'm not mad, we can bond over our hatred of Seth Meyers.

Fred Armisen is far worse than Meyers. Will Forte would be in the conversation as well.

 

I suspect he was referring to the early 80s casts before the Lovitz/Hartman era.

Either way, that's a very misleading list. Billy Crystal, Martin Short, and Dennis Miller were all very successful before their SNL runs. Belushi had his own sitcom before SNL, and certainly owes his success far more to his name than to SNL. Julia Louis Dreyfus, Robert Downey Jr., and Joan Cusack were either totally forgettable or utter wash-outs as cast members. That leaves Lovitz, Hartman, Hooks and Nealon, and not one went on to do anything that came close to their success on SNL. (I'll give Hartman a pass for obvious reasons, and he was great on "Newsradio.") Between those four you've got a bunch of sitcoms where they're the third or fourth name on the credits. That's it.

 

Nice avatar, SpeedTchr. Bender would say, "Trump can bite my shiny metal ass!"

 

Epic threadjack.

 

That would be ironic considering all these years that his his hair has let him down.

 

Yeah, early 80s is exactly what I had in mind. Should have been a little more specific.

I'll agree with all the "successful careers" except Kevin Nealon.

 

What's your problem with Kevin Nealon?

 

The Jean Doumanian years make for great reading in the SNL histories I have. Those are the serious wasteland years.

 

I'm probably going to look like an idiot asking this but who is the babe with Moddy?