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Obama stealing speeches?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Write-brained, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    You just haven't been paying attention. They've moved on.
     
  2. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    He's up 15 right now, with about 70 percent in.

    If that remaining 30 percent is mostly Milwaukee and Madison, he's going to pad that number. Last I checked he was winning the Mad. disctricts 3-1.
     
  3. markvid

    markvid Guest

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  4. Italian_Stallion

    Italian_Stallion Active Member

    You just made me laugh, and my wife laughed even more.
     
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  5. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Who will Obama appoint as the Poet-Laureate, Mitch Albom or Jayson Blair?
     
  6. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Rounding 17 now with 15 left to count.

    He can make it to 20.
     
  7. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Biden for veep?
     
  8. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Won't be a Senator, I don't think.

    But we're getting ahead of ourselves.
     
  9. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    What the heck are you basing this on?

    First off, has it occurred to you that the reason most might think "a political neophyte will not win the general," because McCain will use his years of experience to wear Obama down, is exactly the reason Obama has so much support in the first place? Has it occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, people are sick of all that crap?

    Second of all, has it occurred to you that "political neophytes," relatively speaking, have done fairly well of late? Not sure how you define neophyte, but let's go on the basis of number of statewide/federal elections contested. (Governorship, U.S. House, U.S. Senate, president/vice president). (I cobbled these together fairly quickly, so excuse any errors. The point stands.)

    2000: Bush 3, Gore 8.

    2004: Bush 3, Kerry 6 (including Lt. Gov.)

    1996: Clinton 8, Dole 12

    1992: Clinton 7, Bush I 7 (but I don't think anyone thinks Bush wasn't the more politically experienced candidate)

    For the longest time, we've not elected senators/ex-senators to be president, for whatever reason. Now, we'll have no choice, but if whatever drives that pattern holds true, wouldn't it stand to reason that the first-term senator would do a lot better than the fourth-term one?

    And even if McCain does have an edge from having played the game longer, who do you think Obama's campaign team is? You think they don't know how to play ball?
     
  10. jboy

    jboy Guest

    Turning a twig into a forest, huh? No one will care a week from now.
     
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    I still have a hard time believing that when push comes to shove, America will elect a black guy to be president.
     
  12. jboy

    jboy Guest

    That's completely understandable. But -- and I know this has been said before -- the states or regions where that would be a problem probably wouldn't vote Democrat anyway.

    Plus, you add in what has to be classified as a weak Republican candidate and I don't see that as an issue.
     
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