obviously i'll have something to say about this...

You mean Whitlock is a hypocrite.
You mean Whitlock is full of shit.
You mean Whitlock is a fraud.

So, Mr, Whitlock, wannabe King of Black America -- but really just as full of shit as Jesse and Al combined -- tell us about the new trials you will continue to blaze...considering you have yet to offer anything other than your same old "work my corners" "raise my pimp hand" bullshit.

 

she qualified the old man's statements.

the rutgers players followed their coach. they're kids who did what they were told to do. while i saw it as them making the old man's words legit, though, but i find no fault in what they did. i believe their coach played them as pawns.

i think the woman had an agenda.

 

You are such a heartless jerk. Anyone who knows Coach Stringer would never say that.
What's that you don't know her?
That explains everything.

 

I asked you several pages ago what about her comments bothered you?

You were AWOL from this thread until now.

 

This coming from a man who makes Mad Dog 20/20 and Welfare pick up check day comments about black folks.

What about you should be taken seriously?

 

Hey there are rap songs about picking up welfare checks on "the first of the mooonnth" and D.L. Hugley does a bit about Mad Dog and cheap wine.

Why am I held to a higher standard?

 

He might be a heartless jerk, but he is right.

And I think the fact that the players declined to meet with Mrs. Clinton because they were burned out on the matter spoke volumes about who was pulling the strings and it wasn't the kids. At least two of them admitted they had no idea who Imus was and I'm fairly certain none of them would ever have listened to one second of his show -- so the only reason it became an issue is because the coach decided to jump on the bandwagon and get some pub for herself and her team.

To deny that Coach Stringer didn't use this issue -- just like Whitlock and Al Sharpton -- at least to some degree to self-promote is just plain naive and silly.

 

I think everyone used everyone on this issue. But C. Vivian Stringer is good people. One of the salts of the Earth. Anyone who knows her will attest to that.

 

Yeah. We know those raps songs were your education.

The Don Imus angle is tired. Hip hop and stand up comics didn't provide you with a chance to illuminate your bigotry.

I guess people like you had nothing but good words to say about black people before hip hop.


Incredible.

 

Yeah, cause its not like I'm black or anything. Incredible.

Some of you people need to get some new material.

I mean really, if it gets any deeper than "you are a bigot/sexist/homophobe" you have nothing to say.

That's called being intellectually lazy or just plain ignorant -- and the scary thing is a whole lot of you that swear you are so enlightened have no clue how ignorant and clueless you really are.

And that my friend, is far more dangerous and scary than anything the Grand Poobah of the KKK can throw at Black America.

Try having a discussion without labeling people that disagree with you. Try it once. You might find that you actually learn a few things.

 

Stephen A. Smith weighs in. I post without comment. I couldn't find it on the web, so I'm just copying and pasting it (and probably going to hell).

Time for many black athletes to wake up<P>
(DIVERSITY)
By Stephen A. Smith
The Philadelphia Inquirer
(MCT)
PHILADELPHIA — The site was the historic Morehouse College last week. The panel discussion was hosted by famed film director Spike Lee. The subject: the black athlete and the reporters who cover him. And as a bunch of notable figures in sports sat on this panel — Alonzo Mourning, C. Vivian Stringer, Jim Brown and myself included — bantering about issues stigmatizing African American athletes and the communities they come from, the one inescapable thought turned out to be the most appropriate — and the most uncomfortable.
We still have not recovered from the O.J. Simpson trial.
It’s still too easy to blame the media for images created by the actions of the modern-day athlete. It’s convenient to point out the lack of positive information draping the front pages of news outlets throughout this country. Meanwhile, we learn that Pacman Jones visited a strip club the night before he was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for the 2007 season in part because of such habits.
Reports are swirling that dogfighting was taking place at the Virginia residence of Michael Vick. We’re being inundated with headline news about how Ricky Williams will not be reinstated due to yet another positive test for marijuana.
Oh, did I forget to mention that kids are paying attention?
The fact is, so is white America. Meaning corporate America. Meaning all the head honchos who influence the retaliatory actions of Mr. Goodell, NBA commissioner David Stern, and anyone else in a position to halt the negative impact of a few idiots tainting the jerseys they wear.
The truth is, any boss would be stupid if he or she didn’t pay attention.
The Goodells and Sterns of the world understand something black America had better comprehend quickly: Any athlete resembling O.J. Simpson will happen again over white America’s collective dead body.
You don’t have to be accused of murder to kill a generation of people. You can kill someone’s soul or spirit, their hopes and dreams, even their sensibilities. You can do this with misogynistic lyrics, with juvenile behavior. But mainly, with the slightest perception that these athletes are operating with impunity, enabled by the very individuals assigned to enforce justice and decency while making sure our games are played.
Spike Lee’s panel in Atlanta was supposed to focus on discussing this reality, or, put more bluntly, debating “the pervasive problem within this black youth hip-hop/prison culture” and the collateral damage it’s causing. At least that’s how it was conveyed to my respected colleague and fellow panelist, Jason Whitlock, who wrote about it in the Kansas City Star.
Regardless of what anyone thinks, Whitlock was correct in intimating the panel focused entirely too much energy and ire on him — even if he deserved it because of his comments questioning Stringer’s intent in the aftermath of the Don Imus fiasco. The typical keep-our-business-in-house mentality is not going to alleviate the problems in the black community. Or the concerns of those who are witnessing our deterioration, fearing it will plague them eventually.
Mourning, as charitable and sensible as an athlete comes these days, kept talking of how the “media’s negativity” contributes heavily. Etan Thomas of the Washington Wizards piggybacked on that, saying if the press focused more on exemplary works like that of Mourning’s foundation and others, image wouldn’t be a problem in the NFL or the NBA.
But there would be no problems if players were not getting arrested for domestic violence. USA Today wouldn’t have the faces of 39 arrested African American athletes (out of 41 total) plastered on the front page of its sports section if it wasn’t forced to visit the nearest precinct. And while it could easily be pointed out how little emphasis was placed on the death of St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock, who died in a car accident after having an alcohol level nearly double the legal limit, and how this came in the aftermath of his manager, Tony LaRussa, getting arrested after being found asleep behind the wheel with too much alcohol in his system, that still doesn’t solve the problems existing in the black community.
Economics is an issue. Education is an issue. And so is leadership. The world has learned we’re devoid of it because the athletes who are clueless and insensitive speak the loudest for us. Even when they can barely speak at all.
It’s time for them to wake up, to recognize their actions serve as the perfect excuse to stigmatize a generation.
I left the panel discussion hoping the few athletes there would use their long tentacles to make sure their contemporaries got that message. They had better get it quick because time is running out.
The powers that be couldn’t get the man jumping over suitcases in those Hertz commercials.
So any ignorant fools will do.

 

I give Steven A. a lot of credit, that was very well written.

And I couldn't help but think some of the same things because the first two NFL players suspended by the commish are black and Ricky Williams is black and in trouble. And Michael Vick is black and in some hot water. And Steve McNair just got a second DUI. And Tank Johnson is next.

That isn't to say there is a link between race and crime -- it is just an unfortunate coincidence. But there is no doubt corporate America is taking notes and every time one of these incidents happen it gets harder and harder to blame the media for the perceptions and images of black athletes