obviously i'll have something to say about this...

So rather than gauging the merits of her speech, you're measuring who gave a damn about it? I wonder if you even heard her statements. You still haven't explained in depth what bothered you about her speech.

And another thing, anytime African American women have a chance to counter the body of negative images of them in the media at large is a GOOD THING. So it's bigger than the women both you and I happen to interact with on a daily basis if one is to believe that you're looking at the "big picture." I guess you must've forgotten that in this instance. :


But continue on your march Jason. You found your niche and discovered the formula for being plucked from relative obscurity or irrelevance and being transformed into a darling of the media. Simply repudiate all of the sociological evidence that connects social and economic marginalization with bad behavior and make blanket statements about how "fucked up" black folks are. From Cosby sudden rise as the proper "conscience" of Black America to the articulate musings of Charles Barkley. You're currently in vogue my friend, and the African American community is better off because of it.

 

In this particular instance, Jason, she is above criticism. Why? She didn't do anything wrong. She and her team were the victims and they were entitled to whatever public recourse they had in their own defense. You, on the other hand, have determined to judge not only her motives, but the ability of her players to come to the independent conclusion that they were wronged. That's mindreading, and guesswork, and talk-show pundit-speak, and that's all it is. She called you out on it. She had a right to do so.
Using virtually the same techniques, I have come to the conclusion that the reason you're breaking so much rock in defense of Imus's indefensible comments -- yes, you are -- is that, one day, when you get your own talk show, you prety much want to be able to say the same things without public consequence.

 

victims bastard? really? victims? i really hate how easily that word gets thrown around nowadays.

 

If you are slandered publicly, you are victims of that slander by any definition.

 

wow dude. you're solid about 98 percent of the time, but victims? wow. i can't say some stupid old bastard saying one stupid line on a morning show qualifies as victimization.

 

I don't think Stringer is above criticism, but if you're going to criticize her for something, you need some evidence to back you up. Whitlock admittedly knew nothing about Stringer but proceeded to get inside her head and told us this was a staged attention-grab. His evidence? ``She's a basketball coach, and I've yet to meet a coach who isn't attention starved.'' That's a generalization and a big leap in logic. Those who know Stringer, including Claire Smith, seem to disagree with Whitlock.

Wonder who's right?

 

Not only does the wannabe King of Black America not really know Vivian Stringer, he knows absolutely nothing about what went on in the 9 or 10 days from the time Imus made his comment until Rutgers held its press conference to address the situation.

He has conveniently ignored or has been ignorant of the fact that no one at Rutgers had any comment for more than a week. He seems totally unaware that during that time there were many media requests for comment from Stringer, the RU administartion and from the players, who at times were being followed on campus by TV cameras and reporters.

Finally, after some players went home for Easter weekend and found reporters and TV cameras camped out at their families' homes hoping to get a response, Stringer, the players and the administration decide to make a formal statement about what had become a national story.

In typical Whitlock bullshit fashion, these facts are never mentioned when the attention whore himsmelf accuses Stringer of orchestrating this whole thing just to bring attention to herself and her program.

 

The word facts and Whitlock are polar opposites.

 

TP --
I think we're just tangled a bit in how serious a word we believe "victim" is. You seem to use it only in more severe circumstances than I would.

 

Hey, Chee, hit him with your wallet.

Oh, that's right.

He wouldn't feel it.

 

bastard, you're back up to 100 percent "right-on-ness" with me.

 

I'm not wading through 15 pages.

But a buddy sent me this link, not sure it's on here somewhere.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/etan-thomas/an-open-letter-to-jason-w_b_48247.html