Official Lloyd Carr Death Watch Thread

Where's oop with the STFU?

 

Oh, and reading wicked's siggy: if Ole # 7 and Larry Craig wound up in the same cell, who would be the tapper and who would be the tappee?

Only Lloyd Carr knows for sure. Experience carries the day.

 

If I remember correctly, there was also some snag with the Big Ten and Pac 10 wanting to keep the Rose Bowl tie, so that kept them from having a setup more like the eventual BCS.
If it weren't for those two conferences, Penn State and Nebraska would have met that season and we wouldn't have any debate about that season.
So the Big 10 screwed Penn State.

 

Yes, but nothing in the last four pages have been about Lloyd losing to AppSt./.. all about JoePa and Tom Osborne and Kordell Stewart,,,,

 

Look, all I'm going to say about this is that this isn't a terrible loss when you consider that App State is 80th in Sagarin and probably 25th this week. Look at the teams beyond them. They could probably kick the ass off of most teams third or worse in each of the majors. They have damn good speed. ESPN's poll of great college football upsets didn't even have the 92 Arkie-Citadel shocker. I don't recall what Citadel's computer ranking was but I bet it was far worse than Ap. State even though Arkansas was a mediocre team at that time. Had Texas lost to a far-worse ranked team in Arkansas State last night, you'd still be hearing about Michigan simply because the people yacking about this the loudest are East and Midwest people who live in their own bubble. Michigan losing to Indiana would have been more shocking.

 

So, in a nutshell, what you're saying is it's all political?

 

That's impressive. And without any buddies around to impress.

 

But since you mentioned it...

Most narcissistic people come from the Midwest and the Northeast...as if the news doesn't happen there, it doesn't happen.

 

Don't get snippy, Yawning. I didn't mean to discourage you from stepping out of your element. You're halfway decent when you're not harping about party politics.

As for your second post. How can you mention narcissistic regions and leave out California? Seriously?

 

Well, true.

They even have that "Rose Bowl" connection to the other region...and if you count Penn State being in the Northeast instead of the Big 10 oriented Midwest, you tie all of them together.

 

Fact is, had Arkansas been Notre Dame or Michigan, losing to Citadel would have been a comparative note to yesterday's game. And had Arkansas been the team to lose to App. State, you wouldn't have heard a peep other than to downgrade McFadden's Heisman stock.

 

As I posted on the other thread, I think the bigger story is that perhaps these upsets shouldn't be surprising because the talent level is getting stronger at the smaller schools.