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Official Lloyd Carr Death Watch Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chef, Sep 1, 2007.

  1. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    If any of the North Bumblefuck States had beaten one of college football's winningest programs (and a top-5 team to boot) in the last 15 years, it'd have been a big deal, too.

    If if if if if if if if. Well, App State just put it on Michigan. And the reason it's such a big deal is because nobody's come up with anything even remotely approaching it in the last decade.
     
  2. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    And, let me guess, every single one of them just happened to end up at App State? Kids don't grow up dreaming of playing I-AA football. At least not the good ones.

    You can try and put as much lipstick as you want on App State, they're still going to be a I-AA school that authored a monumental upset.

    It's as clear as the last pass to Manningham. When Michigan NEEDED to make a play, it simply made a play. You mean to tell me they couldn't have been doing that all game?

    Cue John L. Smith's rant about "the coaches screwing it up."
     
  3. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Great play on that field goal, let me tell ya.
     
  4. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Pretty obvious I was talking about offense, I thought. When the game got late, they got a 60-yard TD run and a 50-yard pass.

    Also obvious that there was some kind of coaching breakdown in the special teams play.

    But it makes for a hell of a story.
     
  5. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    Coaching breakdown? I'll give Carr all the hell in the world for his playcalling, but coaching didn't blow that FG.

    Every HS football player in America could tell you which guy to block if you're the offset lineman on a FG. You leave the outside open and cut off the crease between you and the tight end. If you happen to get both guys blocked, great. But if you miss one, miss on the outside, not in the crease.

    That's common football knowledge. I'm quite sure the coaches coached that play that way. The kid just had a mental lapse.
     
  6. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    Of course it would have been embarrassing, Junk. And they probably would've dropped a few spots in the polls. But in the end, they'd still be 1-0, and by October 1, this game would've been nothing but smack talk for all of the OSU fans.
     
  7. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    It changes things. Rather than still believing they're national championship contenders who simply survived a huge scare, they're 0-1, will drop from the top 25 and now have a lame-duck coach who will not return in 2008 (you could have argued that before, too, but really now).
     
  8. RAMBO

    RAMBO Member


    How in fuck did they lose that game.
     
  9. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    They scored fewer points than their opponent...
     
  10. farmerjerome

    farmerjerome Active Member

    Honestly, it probably would've been talked about for a week and then forgotten until Michigan lost another game. Or, if they would've won out, it would've been a factor in voting for the championship.
     
  11. Junk --
    They went from marginal national champiomship contenders if they'd kicked the field goal to No Chance In Hell. If they've got one loss, and every other team in the BCS rankings has two, they still don't make the title game. Some losses are just different.
     
  12. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Why do some posts note that Appalachian State has a wealth of talent and is two-time D I-AA champs, and others note that Michigan should "drop from the top 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!" as a result of this loss?

    Well, which is it?

    Is Michigan, which had been No.5, REALLY not one of the top 25 teams in the nation? Just based on offensive talent and the fact they will finish in the top three-four in one of the six BCS conferences, it's pretty clear that while they lack the defense to contend for a national title, they should retain a top 25 spot for the balance of the season.

    It's one game. One of the great upsets of all time, and a likely death knell for this coach. But Michigan has a lot of season to go, and a long time to get things together for the Big Ten.
     
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