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Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Precious Roy, Sep 22, 2007.

  1. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Well, you're wrong. There. That's pretty simple.
     
  2. I'll clarify my stance on the lawsuit thing: I don't think the 21-year-old student has a case based on the fact I don't think it hurt his character. Yet, some expensive attorney might argue that it could have hurt a possible career in the Wonderlic-happy NFL ... attorneys are creative. Don't bet against them. All I'm saying.
     
  3. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    So it's not Gundy's responsibility to control his emotions?

    It's Jenni Carlson's fault that he acted like an asshat?

    He is a grown adult. If he couldn't contain his emotions over this column, which didn't even attack HIM, then I don't know what to say.
     
  4. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Congrats, you've won awards.

    What courts have ruled this? What sports did these athletes play? A major factor. Another major factor: What level of competition? You treat the starting quarterback of a Division III team differently than that of a Division I team.
     
  5. I was referring to YH about stupid comments he made on another thread - bragging about the awards on his wall ...

    http://www.gannett.com/go/newswatch/2003/august/nw0815-5.htm

    "Moreover, the court rejected the newspaper's argument that amateur athletes who participate in public sporting events are limited-purpose public figures. Despite the fact that courts normally hold that professional athletes fall into this category, "the mere fact of playing on a high-school football team, or little-league baseball team, or a college golf team, is not in and of itself" enough to make a person a public figure, the court concluded.
    In addition to illustrating one court's approach to determining who is a public figure, the case also underscores the desire of most courts to afford maximum privacy to students."

    Scary, huh?
     
  6. HeinekenMan

    HeinekenMan Active Member

    Frankly, those last few words you've written, wicked, are what I've been waiting for all day. You really don't know what to say? I would throw a party, but I'm afraid I'll have to go to sleep. If I have problems getting into la-la land, I plan to think of Huckleberry's stance on this and then I'll slam my head against the nightstand until I black out.
     
  7. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    That's a case about a high school kid though, W-B. The article in question came when he was in high school, before he enrolled or played for West Virginia. It's also a state decision, not one by a federal court.
     
  8. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    You still don't get it. But it's OK. Maybe you can go coddle those Tallahassee kids who are so unfairly being banned from talking to the media.
     
  9. All I'm saying is judges vary. All I'm saying is he could get one that feels this way - who included college into the argument. Or he could get one that laughs him out of the courtroom.

    All I'm sayin'
     
  10. dragonfly

    dragonfly Member

    This is just a thought, not saying I completely by it myself, but someone in my office said something interesting about this today... Basically, how is what Jenny Carlson wrote different than what TJ Simers does every day. Basically, calling people names, goading them, provoking them into smarmy conversations. TJ's obviously got a schtick, and a lot of people like it, but there are a ton of athletes and coaches in LA that probably have been as mad at him as Gundy was at Carlson.

    I know there are differences, but there are some interesting parallels too.
     
  11. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Congrats on the 5000th post but no state judge in Oklahoma would say a starting quarterback at Okie State isn't a public figure.
    Maybe a quarterback cruising the backwaters of Durant, but not Stillwater.
    And besides that, an entire department exists at Okie State to promote Reid or any other Oklahoma State football player.
    In any football obessess state, the starting quarterback is a better-known figure than the mayor or governor. Well any governor not named Scharwzanagger (SP).
     
  12. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I have no idea about any of this. My media law teacher abbreviated first amendment with "F.A." Whatever. That's fine. But, she previously worked in the admissions department of another university where F.A. meant financial aid. So she'd be scribbling up and down the board writing notes, then run into quite the problem: "So, when they passed the Bill of Rights and it started with the financial aid .. OH DAMN .... anyway, our right to free speech is protected by financia ... OOPS."

    That was a long semester.
     
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