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Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Precious Roy, Sep 22, 2007.

  1. Birdscribe

    Birdscribe Active Member

    That whistling sound was the essential point of this 27-page (and counting) thread sailing right over your head.

    It wasn't a column I'd save for the clip file, but as JR pointed out right above this post, there is a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things.

    The right way is to take Carlson aside in private and talk to her in an ADULT manner about the column.

    The wrong way is to stand up there like a 3-year-old and have a meltdown that served no useful purpose -- other than to torpedo Mike Gundy's career (who would want to hire a C-level coach who can't stand a little criticism of his players?) and provide YouTube amusement for eternity.

    If I'm Bobby Reid, I'm going into seclusion. It was nearly as embarrasing for him as it was for Gundy.

    And Jerry, not to defend Jenni Carlson -- since I have zero desire to live in Oklahoma and even less desire to "be like her" -- but you're kidding yourself if you want to be the fodder for some coach's ego trip.
     
  2. Thank you CentralIllinois, for an enlightening post. Finally some intelligence has emerged.
     
  3. JerrySix

    JerrySix New Member

    I have no desire to be the fodder for some coach's ego trip. But for you all to argue as though this happened in a vaccum is silly.

    Gundy went off because she wrote a shitty column. Published publicly. Why should the matter be handled privately? Why not put rebuke her publicly? If she deserved to be rebuked, she deserved to be rebuked PUBLICLY since her article was public.

    Oooh. Coach Gundy was mean to one of our brethren. Boo-fucking-hoo. She wrote a piece of shit column. Without that, Gundy has no reason to go off. He'd never gone off before. In fact, most people in OK speak well of his relations with the press. So please, give me a break.

    Whitlock got it right.
     
  4. Some Guy

    Some Guy Active Member

    But the dude's mom was feeding him chicken. That doesn't strike you as strange? My mom stopped playing the "airplane game" with me when I was about two.
     
  5. Some Guy

    Some Guy Active Member

    No, Bobby Reid cannot get the job done. Hence the benching. Hence the column.

    I'll agree with the fact that the column could have been better written. But that does not mean the "idea" of the column is wrong.

    Bobby Reid, aka "The Next Vince Young," aka the quarterback of "The Greatest Show on Earth" has been benched. And it ain't because he lacks athletic ability.

    That warrants a column.
     
  6. Some Guy

    Some Guy Active Member

    So if she had written a Pulitzer-worthy column calling Bobby Reid a poor quarterback and leader, Gundy would have given her high-five?

    Please.

    Gundy went off because somebody ripped one of his players. Didn't matter if the column was good or bad. It could have been sourced out the wazoo. It could have quoted players saying they had no faith in Reid, due to the umpteen times he's tried to transfer in the past few years.

    Gundy STILL would have been pissed. Let's stop acting like he was attacking her journalism ability. Because he wasn't.
     
  7. JerrySix

    JerrySix New Member

    Right.. Because Gundy has a history of attacking journalists for their columns.

    Oh... that's right. He doesn't.

    Ooops. So much for your theory.
     
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    If Gundy has calmly mentioned the column, it would have been one thing. But to rant and rave like that, he looks like an ass.

    The coach doth protest too much, methinks.
     
  9. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Where there's smoke, like there was billowing from Gundy's dome, there's fire.
     
  10. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    Gundy did Reid a great disservice by ranting about how the quarterback needs to be viewed and treated as a kid. Whatever you think about the column, it would have been mostly forgotten by the public the next day, especially since Oklahoma won.

    And as an earlier poster noted, there probably isn't a college football coach in the land who doesn't drop that, “Be a man! Play like a man! Act like a man!” crap on his players every day.
    The coach made sure Reid is known around the world, and not for his machismo. If Reid hadn't thought about transferring before (and that's doubtful), he probably is now. Maybe that was Gundy’s intent? I refuse to believe a Div. 1 college football coach would be so clueless, he didn't think through the rant and subsequent fallout before stepping to a podium. Because if he had, he would have addressed the game, taken questions and at the end of the presser said he had a few thoughts he wanted to make public, and brought up the column then. Rabid fans upset at Carlson would have been appeased, the players would think coach had their back and the emphasis would still be on the team's win.
     
  11. Jim_Mora

    Jim_Mora Member

    This is what's blurry to me. Did she just stand next to him while he ate a bag lunch he brought her? Was his mom putting the chicken in his mouth? I seriously doubt it. But then again, I question whether she even saw the scene. I'm 22, but I'm sure as hell not going to turn down my mom's chicken if I'm hungry. Maybe not have her stuff it into my mouth while sitting in a booster chair, but that's another story.
     
  12. JerrySix

    JerrySix New Member

    I saw, with my own eyes, Magic Johnson's mother feed him mashed potatoes WITH A SPOON - literally spoon feeding him - outside the Laker's locker room in 1988.

    This, to Jenni Carlson, and the majority of writers on this board, would have proven that Magic Johnson was a pussy; unable, or unwilling to lead the L.A. Lakers.
     
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