Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

And many have said that she COULD have done a better job of working the corners this time.

But we keep having folks such as chilidog saying it's not our job to piss people off.

It really makes me wonder if he's spent one day in a newsroom in his life.

 

Obviously, 41 pages later and the fact that this incident became a national story, a lot of people give a flying fuck what the coach had to say and Whitlock, like him or not, is one of the most-read columnists in the country, so a lot of people give a flying fuck what he has to say on given subjects as well.

 

Source? Link?

 

Check back about 20 pages...someone posted the link a couple weeks ago.

 

i don't think anyone here gives two shits what the coach thinks, just the way he chose to deliver his message.

and whitlock? puh-lease. the guy's a fucking assclown. he writes for jason whitlock, and nobody else and i think every person who posts here knows as much. he's the geo. bush of journalism.

 

I remember. I was looking for a source that said he's one of the most-read columnists in the country.

 

check whitlock's ass ... that's what's speaking that little "fact."

 

Anecdotally, I'd say that's spot-on.

 

Christ, Ira ... got to the Sports and News and Anything Goes areas of this board and see how many people believe that anyone who doesn't agree with them is less intelligent. Fenian and JR are especially shrill about this argument.

 

So it was Jenni Carlson's job to tell Oklahomans that Bobby Reid was a pussy? Must have missed that class in journalism school. My point was, just because something is so, does NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT. Every college writer on this beat knows shit about the program they cover that they would never put in print. Ever. That's the nature of this game.
There has to be a balance. Assuming YOU are in the business, I would think you would understand that.
Pissing people off just for the sake of pissing people off serves no one. We all have to write unflattering things from time to time, thats the nature of this gig, but to go out of your way to call a college player a mama's boy --- even if it might be a somewhat accurate description --- is not the job of a journalist, in my opinion. Apparently, you disagree. Oh well.
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Since Gundy was doing the usual bullshit, rope-a-dope about benching the kid, giving no reasons to the media (and to the fans), Carlson did what a lot of us have to do: work around the edges and find out what you can, and do some speculation and tea-reading. As it turns out, she was right, since the premises of her column have gone unchallenged. If coaches would stop pretending that the game plan and starting lineup for the next game should be as protected as the war plan for the invasion of Normandy, we wouldn't have this debate.

 

NOT ONCE HAVE I SAID that we should never piss people off. Not once have those words appeared in this thread by me, or anyone else, as far as I can remember. If we have to break news, break it. If we have to take a coach to task for a boneheaded call or a team that has more misdemeanors than touchdowns, then that's what we do. It's part of the job for fuck's sake. Even if we have to question why quarterback A is playing instead of quarterback B, that's our right as journalists to do so. But to make a flat-out attack on a kid's character, to humiliate him and call him a pussy and a mama's boy? I just thought it was out of line and mean-spirited. That's all. I guess you didn't, so by all means start hacking out columns like Carlson's. Good luck with that.

Either way, time to move on from this topic and this thread. 41 pages is probably enough.

 

Chili, you said, "Unless of course you want to piss off the program, fan base, the readership and the entire state, then by all means have at it and write columns like this one."
My point is simply that sometimes you will piss people off. You have to be willing to do that.
If you are, then good for you, because it is part of the job.
And I don't know why people keep pointing out how long this thread is. Really, there has been a lot of good discussion over an issue that generally has the public on one side and journalists on the other.
I think it has been a discussion worth having.