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Oklahoma State coach Gundy blasts Oklahoman columnist

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Precious Roy, Sep 22, 2007.

  1. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    because fanboys hate it when you point out stupidity when their favorite team is involved.
     
  2. Not that this adds anything to the conversation, but I thought this commercial from a Toyota dealer in Norman was kind of amusing.

     
  3. SixToe

    SixToe Well-Known Member

    That's pretty good. Someone at Fowler Toyota should get a little bump.

    Tacomas, by the way, are pussies. Tundras are real trucks.
     
  4. Big_Space

    Big_Space Member

    Does it matter at all that Carlson got her cute little antidote about the mother feeding Reid chicken wrong? and from a third party?

    Said it before, I'll say it again. The column was atrocious, it was character-assassination of a college player based on rumor and rumblings, backed up with facts heard on the sly and whispers. Amateur hack job you can read on any rivals.com or scout.com message board.

    Nice job some of you have done in holding up this style of "journalism". Go ahead and think your readers want that.
     
  5. wannabeu

    wannabeu Member


    Bingo!
     
  6. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    Please, a bunch of us, including yours truly, have ripped the column left and right.

    Do you folks not get that?
     
  7. Seriously, this debate is still going on? I'm getting tired of seeing it back at the top. ;) Ooops, now I just put it back there!
     
  8. wickedwritah

    wickedwritah Guest

    This is like the boots thread, lots of crap spewed by lots of us.
     
  9. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Anecdote and Big 12 beat writers have confirmed that Gundy was talking out his ass. The QB was looking to transfer, even though in the rant Gundy said he wasn't.
    Nobody is a winner here, but I'll still take Jenni.
     
  10. For the millionth time, she didn't get the story wrong. She didn't see it, but a beat writer did.
    Others saw it as well.
     
  11. And those "rumors and rumblings" are from the coaches, probably including Gundy himself.
     
  12. The key word in that sentence is "probably."

    After 42 pages, you just don't get this, do you? The consensus here isn't necessarily that she had it wrong; it's that her reporting was shabby -- embarrassingly inept.

    If I'm writing something in which I essentially call a college quarterback a pussy, I'd want to talk to everybody I could for the record, including the player and his mother (who, as Jerome Solomon found out in the Houston Chronicle column, wasn't so hard to find). And what I couldn't attribute, I'd label as coming from sources, more than one. "Rumors and rumblings" might be OK for a chat room, but it isn't for almost every journalist I know.

    Carlson and her yahoo editor are standing by their story (a really dumb idea), but that's not the point. She's been vilified for trashing a player by the fans, but as a journalist, I can't say she went about it the right way. And for the millionth time, I wouldn't use an anecdote that I got second-hand without first at least asking the people involved about it.
     
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