Only in Big Creek, West Virginia ...

Ace · Sep 11, 2007

Re: Only in West Virginia ...

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

Ace said:

I agree that unless the daughter herself wanted her name to be used, I wouldn't have used it, even if the mom said it was OK.

Also, what's the deal with the "mental issues." ADHD is hardly something that would be worth mentioning in a story like this.

It's certainly not something that would cause you to not know any better than to hang around with retarded, torture-loving rednecks.
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Ace,
My wife may take exception to your remarks, considering she married a retarded, torture-loving (I am a Pittsburgh Pirates fan after all) redneck!
Though, in fairness she doesn't have ADHD.

;D
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Well, there you go. No cause and effect at all. Though in your case, you may just be a masochist.

farmerjerome · Sep 11, 2007

Re: Only in West Virginia ...

Ace said:

I agree that unless the daughter herself wanted her name to be used, I wouldn't have used it, even if the mom said it was OK.

Also, what's the deal with the "mental issues." ADHD is hardly something that would be worth mentioning in a story like this.

It's certainly not something that would cause you to not know any better than to hang around with retarded, torture-loving rednecks.
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Ditto on all counts.

What a bunch of sick fucks. Dip them in a vat of boiling oil during halftime of W. Va. football game.

Eagles1 in London · Sep 11, 2007

Re: Only in West Virginia ...

what a group of absolutly disgusting human beings. I wish we could see what happens to them when the prison population finds out why they're locked up. I hope they get the same treatment behind bars as they did this woman. Except instead of a week, i hope they get it everyday for the duration of their term.

93Devil · Sep 11, 2007

Re: Only in West Virginia ...

Mom is 49 and the son is 24. Are they sure this is not her grandson? It is West Virginia.

That said, Morgantown is an oasis.

Pastor · Sep 11, 2007

Re: Only in West Virginia ...

I was just down in Charleston on vacation. It was a fairly nice city. Sure, there was a paucity of options for entertainment but it didn't seem like a terrible place.

Stuff like this is simply disgusting. I can't imagine how anyone could do something like that.

PeteyPirate · Sep 11, 2007

I have amended the thread title for those for whom the joke was too insidery.

Platyrhynchos · Sep 11, 2007

FBI is going to investigate it as a possible hate crime? :

imjustagirl2 · Sep 11, 2007

Pastor said:

I was just down in Charleston on vacation. It was a fairly nice city. Sure, there was a paucity of options for entertainment but it didn't seem like a terrible place.

Stuff like this is simply disgusting. I can't imagine how anyone could do something like that.

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Big Creek is about 50 miles from Charleston. Charleston is like an oasis of civilization in W.Va. There's a lot of nothingness around it.

outofplace · Sep 11, 2007

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

This morning's Charleston Gazette has a photo of the woman who was assaulted and her mother taken at the hospital.
The paper ID's the victim - but doesn't interview her. The reporter interviews the 20 year-old's mom and ID's them both.
Why?
To me, this is bullshit. The victim should NOT in any way shape or form be ID. I really believe the AP is correct in not Identifying victims to sexual assault. I don't think the Gazette's story should be any exception.
The story is enhanced (slightly) by the interview with the victim's parents, by why ID them? Why not refer to them as "parents of the victim?"

I think this is really bad form on the part of the Gazette?

Here is the Gazette's story (I'm removing the name of the reporter)

6 arrested, charged in torture

Authorities believe racism played role in womans ordeal

Staff writer
CHARLESTON - Carmen Williams doesnt understand why her 20-year-old daughter was tortured, raped and tied up in a shed.
Police tell her that what happened was probably a hate crime, that it happened because Megan Williams is black.
Every time they stabbed her, they called her nigger, her mother said.
But whatever the reason, Carmen Williams wants people to know what happened to her daughter. She agreed to talk to a reporter from her daughters room at Charleston Area Medical Center General Hospital.
She said a man and a woman who Megan Williams thought were her friends took her to the house of Frankie Lee Brewster in Pecks Mill, Logan County.
Megan Williams was held in the house for about a week, police said.
According to criminal complaints filed against six people in this case, she was beaten, stabbed, choked, sexually assaulted and threatened with death.
The details are even more horrible. According to the complaints, she was forced to eat dog and rat feces and to lick up blood. She was made to lick parts of Brewsters body, under the threat of death. Her hair was pulled out. She was made to drink from the toilet. She was sexually assaulted while hot water was poured on her body, and while a man held a knife to her.
A woman allegedly cut Megan Williams ankle and said, Thats what we do to niggers around here.
Six people had been charged Monday evening, including Brewster, the 49-year-old woman who owns the home where the alleged assault happened. She is charged with sexual assault, kidnapping, malicious wounding and giving false statements to an officer.
Bobby R. Brewster, Frankie Brewsters 24-year-old son, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.
Danny J. Combs, 20, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding. George A. Messer, 27, is charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.
Karen Burton, 46, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony. Her daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, is charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.
Each was being held Monday at Southwestern Regional Jail on $100,000 bail.
Carmen Williams said the two people who took her daughter to the Pecks Mill house did it so she could be tortured. Police are looking for those people, Logan County Chief Deputy V.K. Dingess said Monday evening.
Apparently once they got her there they planned to do this, Dingess said.
Carmen Williams said she has barely left her daughters side since police found her Saturday.
She wakes up in the middle of the night screaming, Mommy, she said. Whats really bad is that we dont know everything they did to her. She is crying all the time.
She said her daughter has been a little better since she learned that the people who hurt her have been arrested.
The FBI has been called in to investigate the incident as a hate crime, Dingess said. All six of the people charged so far are white.
Megan Williams was found Saturday at Brewsters house. Police, acting on a tip, went to the residence to check on a female who was reportedly being held against her will, according to the criminal complaint filed in Logan County Magistrate Court.
Frankie was sitting on her front porch with her door open. We asked Frankie who else was at the residence and she stated no one else was here, that she was alone, according to the complaint. As she was talking, she got up and stepped toward her door when a female inside the residence limped toward the door with her arms out, saying, help me.
The woman, Megan Williams, had four stab wounds in her left leg. Her eyes are bruised.
Brewster told police that she didnt know how that had happened to Williams. She told police she had been away with friends, and that Williams came to her house on Saturday already in that condition.
Megan Williams was taken first to Logan Regional Hospital and then to CAMC General, where she underwent surgery for her leg wounds, Dingess said.
We have all been praying and asking the lord to take us through this, Carmen Williams said. Its hard to deal with it. We are very angry. ... She will be scarred for a long time.
Megan Williams has some mental issues, including attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, her mother said.
She was always pretty happy, she said of her daughter. She wants to be on her own. She is a good person.
Carmen Williams said it will take a long time for her daughter to recover.
People dont realize that people will call themselves your friends but they are not really your friends, said Matthew Williams, the womans father. People have to be aware that things like that will happen.

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PS
I don't know about the thread title "Only in W.Va."
This shit happens all over the country - Texas, Tennessee, Colorado, Kentucky ... Not only in West Virginia.

Edit: I went back and ran the spell check .
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I agree with you that they should have left the ID's out, but why remove the reporter's name?

Pastor · Sep 11, 2007

imjustagirl said:

Pastor said:

I was just down in Charleston on vacation. It was a fairly nice city. Sure, there was a paucity of options for entertainment but it didn't seem like a terrible place.

Stuff like this is simply disgusting. I can't imagine how anyone could do something like that.

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Big Creek is about 50 miles from Charleston. Charleston is like an oasis of civilization in W.Va. There's a lot of nothingness around it.

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There was a lot of nothingness in it as well.

At times a few looks came our way that did not make me happy. Not bad overall though.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Sep 11, 2007

outofplace said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

This morning's Charleston Gazette has a photo of the woman who was assaulted and her mother taken at the hospital.
The paper ID's the victim - but doesn't interview her. The reporter interviews the 20 year-old's mom and ID's them both.
Why?
To me, this is bullshit. The victim should NOT in any way shape or form be ID. I really believe the AP is correct in not Identifying victims to sexual assault. I don't think the Gazette's story should be any exception.
The story is enhanced (slightly) by the interview with the victim's parents, by why ID them? Why not refer to them as "parents of the victim?"

I think this is really bad form on the part of the Gazette?

Here is the Gazette's story (I'm removing the name of the reporter)

6 arrested, charged in torture

Authorities believe racism played role in womans ordeal

Staff writer
CHARLESTON - Carmen Williams doesnt understand why her 20-year-old daughter was tortured, raped and tied up in a shed.
Police tell her that what happened was probably a hate crime, that it happened because Megan Williams is black.
Every time they stabbed her, they called her nigger, her mother said.
But whatever the reason, Carmen Williams wants people to know what happened to her daughter. She agreed to talk to a reporter from her daughters room at Charleston Area Medical Center General Hospital.
She said a man and a woman who Megan Williams thought were her friends took her to the house of Frankie Lee Brewster in Pecks Mill, Logan County.
Megan Williams was held in the house for about a week, police said.
According to criminal complaints filed against six people in this case, she was beaten, stabbed, choked, sexually assaulted and threatened with death.
The details are even more horrible. According to the complaints, she was forced to eat dog and rat feces and to lick up blood. She was made to lick parts of Brewsters body, under the threat of death. Her hair was pulled out. She was made to drink from the toilet. She was sexually assaulted while hot water was poured on her body, and while a man held a knife to her.
A woman allegedly cut Megan Williams ankle and said, Thats what we do to niggers around here.
Six people had been charged Monday evening, including Brewster, the 49-year-old woman who owns the home where the alleged assault happened. She is charged with sexual assault, kidnapping, malicious wounding and giving false statements to an officer.
Bobby R. Brewster, Frankie Brewsters 24-year-old son, is charged with kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of a felony.
Danny J. Combs, 20, is charged with sexual assault and malicious wounding. George A. Messer, 27, is charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.
Karen Burton, 46, is charged with malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony. Her daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, is charged with assault during the commission of a felony and battery.
Each was being held Monday at Southwestern Regional Jail on $100,000 bail.
Carmen Williams said the two people who took her daughter to the Pecks Mill house did it so she could be tortured. Police are looking for those people, Logan County Chief Deputy V.K. Dingess said Monday evening.
Apparently once they got her there they planned to do this, Dingess said.
Carmen Williams said she has barely left her daughters side since police found her Saturday.
She wakes up in the middle of the night screaming, Mommy, she said. Whats really bad is that we dont know everything they did to her. She is crying all the time.
She said her daughter has been a little better since she learned that the people who hurt her have been arrested.
The FBI has been called in to investigate the incident as a hate crime, Dingess said. All six of the people charged so far are white.
Megan Williams was found Saturday at Brewsters house. Police, acting on a tip, went to the residence to check on a female who was reportedly being held against her will, according to the criminal complaint filed in Logan County Magistrate Court.
Frankie was sitting on her front porch with her door open. We asked Frankie who else was at the residence and she stated no one else was here, that she was alone, according to the complaint. As she was talking, she got up and stepped toward her door when a female inside the residence limped toward the door with her arms out, saying, help me.
The woman, Megan Williams, had four stab wounds in her left leg. Her eyes are bruised.
Brewster told police that she didnt know how that had happened to Williams. She told police she had been away with friends, and that Williams came to her house on Saturday already in that condition.
Megan Williams was taken first to Logan Regional Hospital and then to CAMC General, where she underwent surgery for her leg wounds, Dingess said.
We have all been praying and asking the lord to take us through this, Carmen Williams said. Its hard to deal with it. We are very angry. ... She will be scarred for a long time.
Megan Williams has some mental issues, including attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, her mother said.
She was always pretty happy, she said of her daughter. She wants to be on her own. She is a good person.
Carmen Williams said it will take a long time for her daughter to recover.
People dont realize that people will call themselves your friends but they are not really your friends, said Matthew Williams, the womans father. People have to be aware that things like that will happen.

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PS
I don't know about the thread title "Only in W.Va."
This shit happens all over the country - Texas, Tennessee, Colorado, Kentucky ... Not only in West Virginia.

Edit: I went back and ran the spell check .
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I agree with you that they should have left the ID's out, but why remove the reporter's name?
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I removed it because I don't want people thinking I'm picking on the writer on trying to poke holes in their work.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Sep 11, 2007

Pastor said:

imjustagirl said:

Pastor said:

I was just down in Charleston on vacation. It was a fairly nice city. Sure, there was a paucity of options for entertainment but it didn't seem like a terrible place.

Stuff like this is simply disgusting. I can't imagine how anyone could do something like that.

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Big Creek is about 50 miles from Charleston. Charleston is like an oasis of civilization in W.Va. There's a lot of nothingness around it.

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There was a lot of nothingness in it as well.

At times a few looks came our way that did not make me happy. Not bad overall though.

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Just make sure your aren't confusing Big Creek, W.Va in Logan County with Big Creek High School in McDowell (or MacDowell as the locals say) County W.Va.

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