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Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Moderator1, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    I guess even multiple APSE wins can't save you from the shareholders in the long run. Is anyone surprised?
     
  2. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Nope. And the bar was set so ridiculously high there, so all of this looks even more shocking. But I always wondered how long they could act like a big-sports-town paper. Yes, Orlando is a big city and has lots of transplants that care about things elsewhere in the state, but at the end of the day Orlando's only territorial sports claim is the Magic, Univ of Central Florida, and a lot of golf and preps. And if they can let golf slide, that's probably just the tip of the iceberg. Very sad.
     
  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Even if they don't fill Elling's position, doesn't mean they won't slide someone over from another spot to cover golf.
     
  4. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Orlando can lay claim to the Bucs. The coverage has always been superior.

    Ferguson covers the golf scene as well as anyone can. It's becoming less pragmatic to have a national golf writer.
     
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    True, but Tiger doesn't play every tournament so ....
     
  6. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    ;D
     
  7. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if Orlando has to make Dallas-sized cutbacks at some point. I remember being told that they had 10 assistant/deputy sports editors at one point. They also have way too many columnists. Bianchi and Whitley are more than enough...

    I agree on their Bucs coverage. Chris Harry is outstanding... I love Orlando's section, but the reputation of the paper is one that spends money like it's going out of style. I'm hardly surprised some of the things the paper has done has caught up with it.
     
  8. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    You need to get off this tired old rant. Fergie doesn't write a lot about Tiger because he wants to. He writes a lot about Tiger because almost every sports editor in the country wants him to. And he did pretty good stuff from Pebble Beach and the LA Open this year, without Tiger playing.
     
  9. Birdscribe

    Birdscribe Active Member


    And you are commenting with certaintly that YOU know the real issue with Steve Elling. Boy, you've waxed more than poetic throughout about this with absolute black-and-white certainty that what Steve did warranted termination.

    If I didn't know any better, and if I was a little less discerning in the conspiracy theories to which I subscribe, I'd swear you have issues with Steve. And since you're so black-and-white about this, it escapes me how it's OK for someone to write for a program on a game they cover and not OK to write a throwaway story on a tournament THEY cover.

    Better work out some more, Simon. Must be tough to wake up in the morning with the strain from that moral flexibilty you've displayed.

    Monte, perhaps you're right. Perhaps Dave did get the OK to write for that program and perhaps Ed Sherman did get the OK to write for the Masters Journal. Either way, I see no problem with it -- just like I saw no problem with what Steve did.

    Apparently, the sanctimonious folks in Tribune are like you, Simon. Apparently, in their misguided and selective enforcement of ethics -- which, as I've pointed out eight or so pages ago -- is indisputable, they see a difference that isn't there.

    You're trying to have it both ways and I'm done trying to explain this to you. Good day.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Simon,

    You know that bird works in the golf industry, right? So he's likely to know more than what Steve wrote here.

    And would you at least admit that since the Super Bowl was in Miami, hard on the Broward County border, and was covered quite extensively by the Sun-Sentinel, that having a story in the Super Bowl program might be perceived by some editors as a conflict of interest?

    I don't understand to you how one is wrong and one is definitely OK. If you want to argue that you need to get the green light from the boss, that's different.
     
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    There is no argument. Hyde definitely had the green light.

    And, no, the Super Bowl program, in no way, is a conflict of interest for a newspaper writer.

    Finally: Bird is unlikely to know the whole truth behind the Elling fiasco, even if he is giving Tiger a handjob as I type.

    We do know, though, that there was a LEGITIMATE conflict of interest in play (please do your reading).
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I disagree. I think if you are getting paid to write a story for the Super Bowl program, especially for a Super Bowl in your city, it is a conflict of interest.
     
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