Pac Man caught on camera punching stripper and biting bouncer

espn finally mentioned pacman jones. it was mentioned in sportscenter. i caught the tail end.

 

Wow!!!

I guess that means it's OFFICALLY legit!

and since you are nolonger ON ANY AIRWAVES - you are not!

 

Fill in the blank....

This _____ will not ___ ____.

 

I'm still wondering what expectated means.

 

Fixin' to spit.

 

Still think this has more to do with it being in Vegas, it's proximity to L.A., the lax rules already in place, etc.

If the All-Star game were held in Phoenix, do you still think this happens?

I don't.

Complexion and character of the city has just as much to do with how this is run. Houston was crowded and a mob scene, but I never heard anyone complain about feeling unsafe or that they ran into criminals at every turn.

The NBA deserves blame for its image, but I refuse to simply blame a music culture for all that's wrong with it. Fact is, once the league became flooded with high school players, the NBA's character changed dramatically. Kids, many of whom were from troubled backgrounds and had not exactly been honed in personal responsibility, were given millions of dollars. Once those immature players became the majority makeup of the league, it became a haven for some of what was seen in Vegas. That's got nothing to do with a Ludacris song. That's got everything to do with bad parenting, absentee fathers, poverty, lack of education -- you know, all the stuff a sports league can't exactly fix.

 

it surprises me that someone who supposedly is a columnist for a major metro has flown off the handle on this thread with so many ridiculous, out-of-left-field, completely nonsensical points. (actually, I'm really not. I was just saying that for effect).

at the start of this season, there were 349 players on NBA rosters who were drafted out of college (79 percent), as opposed to 35 who went straight from high school to the league (7.9 percent) and 54 from foreign countries (12 percent).

forgive me for thinking that that's not exactly "flooded with high school players."

I'd agree that the league deserves blame for its image and I believe it's wrong to just blame it on "hip-hop culture" because that's too easy. But a lot of these guys, I won't say a majority but a whole shitload of them, have embraced a lifestyle that's built around decadence, violence, drug use and immorality. it just so happens that those things are embraced by a lot of hip-hop music, but the truth of the matter is that (minus the violence for the most part) that's pretty much the kind of stuff you'd expect from quite a few young 20-something people of any race with much more money than they've got sense.

EDIT: I shouldn't have said the 79 percent were drafted out of college, as some of them weren't drafted at all. should have said "attended a four-year college" instead.

 

I agree with you, Bruh, I think. That's what my point was: Hip Hop was great back in the day, and I love Snoop Dogg, etc. But many people - including TONS of dominant culture, suburban white kids - have screwed up hip hop's name. That's a shame.

Plenty of people can listen to Dre, Eazy and Snoop and not go out and act the fool. Plenty can't, apparently, the majority of which are punk white kids.

Should Snoop and the rest be able to make their music? Yeah, it's a free country. I mean not every person who watches porn is a sexual deviant, right? But many can't seem to listen to this stuff without trying to imitate it in real life. That's where the problems start.

I'm not sure if I'm reading you right here and if you're reading me right. Just clue me in if my take on what I think you're saying is off.

Peace.

 

Disagree.

Misogyny, homophobia and general violence (and plagiarism... Is there even a SINGLE 1980s hit that hasn't been salt-water-taffied into this shit?) fuel the most famous acts in hip-hop.

 

jemele

i'd talk to some people connected to the nba (people who can afford to be honest) about what transpired in houston and atlanta. people (the media) ignored the trouble at previous all-star weekends. it would've been ignored this weekend, too. not hearing about something is not equal to reporting. it would be great to blame this on "vegas" but that ignores the obvious reality.

 

What do you mean, ignored?

There were police reports that weren't reported in the media?

Keeping hearsay under wraps is not "ignoring" anything in my book.

 

Anybody else think it's funny that the NBA is taking massive amounts of shit for a violent incident involving an NFL player?