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Paging Lynn Hoppes ...

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Riptide, Jul 11, 2012.

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  1. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Of course the same thing is true of most newspaper, radio, and TV station owners as well. If journalism doesn't make money, do you really think owners care about bringing truth to light and other stuff idealistic kids think journalism is after watching "All the President's Men?"
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Admonishing him publicly!?! By admitting to it on a lightly-read blog? They should be posting editor's notes and apologies on every story where he lifted content.

    And I'm the SE at a mid-sized paper in flyover country. One of my guys gets caught doing that, that often and he'd be shitcanned within 24 hours. No question.
     
  3. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Why is Hoppes writing at all? Thought he was supposed to be a big ideas guy.
     
  4. Tucsondriver

    Tucsondriver Member

    I agree with everything you say. I'd expect to get shitcanned if I got caught doing anything like this. I'd probably quit. But however feeble ESPN's admonition, it's more than Dowd got.

    And to clarify, when the NYT gave Dowd a pass, it obviously didn't establish a literal precedent, but it contributed to a lowering of the bar. Just as what ESPN has apparently done, although to a much lesser degree.
     
  5. BurnsWhenIPee

    BurnsWhenIPee Well-Known Member

    Then you and all the other talented, hard-working journalists who toil at ESPN every day should be the ones who are the most pissed off about Hoppes' plagiarism and the non-reaction to it.

    Because of his shifty decisions and the refusal of the mothership to do anything meaningful about it, you all are being painted with the brush of ESPN being full of fluff, non journalists and plagiarists, with no oversight and no real desire to be better than that. Maybe not by the majority of viewers/readers, but every incident like this that happens and is greeted with a shoulder shrug and an empty rationalization has an impact on ESPN's credibility as a whole.

    You really do reap what you sow, whether you want to admit it or not.
     
  6. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Sigh. Quit while you're behind.
     
  7. mediaguy

    mediaguy Well-Known Member

    I love the typo in the Salon URL. Deceipt! Like when the cabbie gives you a blank card and you pencil in $28.
     
  8. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    I missed the announcement that The New York Times was making the rules for every other outlet. So if The New York Times makes a shitty decision, that's what we all have to do from now on?
     
  9. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    I also didn't know Dowd was a former president of a journalist trade group. Small world.

    Where is the response from APSE? At one point, it has a responsibility to denounce Hoppes or the organization is a sham.
     
  10. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    THAT'S what makes APSE a sham to you?
     
  11. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty New Member

    and you're contributing plenty to lowering the bar.
     
  12. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    What makes it a sham to you? Curious to know.
     
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