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Paging Lynn Hoppes ...

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Riptide, Jul 11, 2012.

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  1. pseudo

    pseudo Well-Known Member

    Instead of targeting the bloggers, most of whom came into the .com with strong writing chops (speaking mostly of the NFL guys here, because they're the only ones I pay much attention to), I'd aim my fire at the "entertainment" side of the WWL. The style-over-substance gang rules the roost in Bristol, which makes me sick for my friends there who actually try to commit journalism.
     
  2. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Plagerism is plagerism be it in a blog, term paper, news report. He has no excuse.
     
  3. JJHHI

    JJHHI Member

    Plagiarism, even.
     
  4. Substitute the word arson for jaywalking, and see what you have.

    There are no shades of gray on plagiarism.

    You do it, you're fired.

    Period.
     
  5. BurnsWhenIPee

    BurnsWhenIPee Well-Known Member

    Anyone really charged up about it can submit an inquiry to the ombudsman.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?id=2826900

    Not that it will do any good, but if they get a few hundred people asking why plagiarism is being treated as "lazy journalism" and allowed to happen, it may at least be an inconvenience for them.
     
  6. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I was typin 2 fast. thanks
     
  7. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    But still not an excuse.
     
  8. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I totally agree.
     
  9. JackS

    JackS Member

    For the second time in this thread, I don't want to come off as defending the guy (and I'm caucasian...who knew?), but I'll tell you why that sentence is wrong.

    Because IMO, plagiarism where someone's work is being stolen is decidedly worse than cutting and pasting boilerplate passages where there was no real "work" done. Again, these were a bunch of facts that could have been written up any which way. Hoppes did it the lazy way, pilfering largely or totally verbatim. If Hoppes stole every single "fact" from Wikipedia but changed the wording enough so that it wasn't so easily recognizable, no one would have noticed or cared.

    Look at it this way...the Wikipedia author(s) "stole" those same facts from somewhere else...maybe verbatim for all we know.

    Stealing facts is not the same as stealing ideas or quotes. There are indeed shades of gray.
     
  10. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    This shades of gray talk isn't nearly as titillating as I was led to believe.
     
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Maybe there aren't enough of them.
     
  12. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    A former APSE president still shouldn't have a job in the industry for copying and pasting. The lack of a statement speaks volumes about the organization. It's just a glorified and more expensive SPJ.com meet-up if the board doesn't condemn Hoppes.
     
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