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Duly noted, Doc. Now go make another pretty graphic.

 

Ragu, how can you even look your self in the mirror? Us journalist want to bring out the truth.

 

You're right. They are responsible. No denying that.

 

He doesn't. He looks at a piece of paper in the mirror.

 

Actually, it's quite like explaining journalism to you.

 

You make a great argument, o.o.p. Just as I said to you and Ragu in the other thread on this subject. Mark, if he took, is a loser. I agree.

This, however, is not the point, at least as I understand it.

The point is, does the 'loser' deserve to be in the HOF, with other 'losers' like Ty Cobb, or Gaylord Perry.

That is the point of all of this, at least as far as what I understand JDV's intent is. That's why he did this thread now, right before the HOF vote.

 

I didn't write uninformed opinion. I wrote unsupported opinion.

Should I have written "unsubstantiated?"

Still opinion. Nothing more.

So you know.

 

Oh geesh,

1.) I did NOT call Mcnabb a loser - just saying I agree with Rush (and now many) he was overrated at one time. Frankly, as recently as the beggining of this season.

2.) I am saying to the best of my knowledge Mark was clean - or more specifically, I trained him clean and have no reason to believe he was not clean during the times I observed him, but all top athletes have access to whatever they want. So, who knows for sure.

3.) Not speaking or even taking the 5th does not = guilty

4.) The biggest gains in training Mark ever made were with me (to the best of my knowledge) that is documented and a fact. Thus, even if he did do X & Y then it shows that there were better alternatives to him - like good training & he did not need X & Y to win.

5.) Hypothecially, if everyone is doing something your right that does not make it right - but it also SERIOUSLY blurs the line as to what "cheating" is with respect to the HOF. That should be obvious.

I mean to take it to the extreme to make the point that is like saying Jay Cutler should not be Mr. Olympia (bodybuilding) because he uses "performance enhancers" & he won't answer Q's or take drug tests, etc. Uhh...THEY ALL DO in elite professional bodybuilding top the best of my knowledge (& that is NOT a secret).

Which is what I said in my vids - you need to be real and judge sports for what they really are & what really goes down to judge greatness.

(i.e. Tour De France - using drugs = technically cheating but WIDELY done. Lance has "questions" surrounding him should he be kept out of HOF for cycling HELL NO. This is as opposed to say getting a lift in the team van for 50K of a stage - that is out and out cheating)

 

I think DyePack (seemingly supporting RokSki and JVD), RokSki, JDV and indiansnetwork are the same person.

Just saying.

Whatever.

 

I have an opinion. It's a theory, acutally. It's called the Law of Gravity. Now it can't be proven, because science doesn't allow for proof, per se. But a lot of experts seem to believe in it. Now, the uneducated masses, they don't really understand it. But there's this other group, this middle group. They think they know about it, and they have the power to influence public opinion, but when they are presented with someone with exponentially greater information on TLOG, they snarkily respond with trite phrases like 'so you know.'

You'd think they'd be open to such information about the theory. I mean, they are talking to a scientist here. But no, sadly, no, they'd rather be smart-alecky and play semantic games when their weak arguments are disproven.

John talks in the videos about experiences he had with Mark. Those are facts, not opinions. You know, in the 17 pages and hours of video, y'know? Those be facts, my smart-alecky friend. You want to play semantic games? Understand the difference between a fact and an opinion.

Fact: You said everything was opinion. You are wrong, and no 'so you knows' or 'unsupported' vs. 'uninformed' will change that fact. You don't like the threads. Don't post. Don't read. Until then, don't think your spew is going to go unchecked, or that it won't be corrected. You are wrong, period.


What you should have written was nothing, to answer your question. That would have been appropriate in this instance. If you feel the same about JDV and me, stop responding, and I know I'll follow suit. If you continue to post factually incorrect statements, I suppose I will be forced to continue to correct them, for the benefit of the readers.

So you know.

 

OK, THAT post made me laugh. And I needed to laugh.