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Pawlenty drops out of race

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    And it appears Perry is playing pretty fast and loose with what are already fairly fast and loose campaign finance rules:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61451.html

    One of Perry's big early backers is the same lobbyist Perry pummeled Kay Bailey Hutchison about during his last primary, because the lobbyist was connected with her.
     
  2. PeterGibbons

    PeterGibbons Member

    I would agree with you there, my problem with Perry, much like I have with Obama and have said it before, is both are really good campaigners, but then they get into office and you realize they said all the right things and can't back them up.

    Perry has done this twice now in Texas. He's the kind of guy that really loves to campaign and after he wins he's completely lost in office, I felt the same way about Obama (both good-looking smooth talkers who were all sizzle and no steak)
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Obama is brilliant.

    If he has a flaw, it's that he's just too cautious for the times.

    Obviously, a lot of that has to do with navigating party politics and the hand he's been dealt with the makeup of Congress.
     
  4. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    This one?
    http://www.economist.com/node/21525911
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    This one:

    http://www.economist.com/node/21525839
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

    http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/17/0417gop.html

    From the quote, Perry's saying we have a great country right now, but if Washington does things that Texas doesn't agree with, which frankly, could be anything, then Texas would look at options on seceding.

    I'd think that most sane governors would say that they love their country and would never think of abandoning it. Not this governor.
     
  7. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    He may be brilliant but he is trampzing through Iowa giving the exact same speech that former governor Chet Culver gave last year during his re-election campaign before he got tossed aside for a retread with no new ideas (Terry Branstad).

    "Green Energy."

    "Main Street. Not Wall Street."

    "The rich need to pay their fair share!"

    Iowa needs to hear more than this to show up for you in 2012, Mr. President.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    When he talks in more than sound bites, he's accused of "lecturing" and "talking down" to people.
     
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    Texas is in a different situation that any of the other states. It's not an option for the other states. It's only a question that could be asked of Perry.

    I don't think he answered it the way he should have, but comparing him to other governors on a topic that other governors would never be faced with is ignorant.
     
  10. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    It's not an option for Texas, either.
     
  11. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member


    I used to think Obama was brilliant, but the shine has definitely worn off. These speeches are nothing special. I would also like to see a little more fire and brimstone. He tried playing nice, but it didn't work.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Oh, he's brilliant. But that doesn't mean he's a great president. Billy Beane is brilliant. Theo Epstein is brilliant. Would you want them running your NBA franchise? A college athletic department?
     
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