Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

He was 28 or 29 ... GA or not that's old enough - way fucking old enough - to know a senior citizen sodomizing a 10-year-old in the shower is a CRIME IN PROGRESS... Period.

Waiting til after the fact to alert Paterno? Huh-uh. That don't cut it.

Why wait? That's protecting the program. ..

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

I can not, for the life of me, understand how any person could see (or be told) about an old man raping a 10-year old and think anything other than "time to call the cops."

I'm all for the crucifixion of every single person that knew anything at any time. No excuses.

 

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To relate it to our workplace, this seems to pretty much be the equivalent of the old, retired columnist that hangs around the office raping a kid in the library at night, an intern seeing it, and ...

Intern: Well, I called my dad and he said to tell the Sports Editor.
Sports Editor: Yeah, he told me, and I went STRAIGHT to my managing editor.
Managing Editor: Very disturbing. I immediately told my Executive Editor.
Executive Editor: Rape? Here? I unconditionally support the people here.

I mean, they have cops in State College, right? A 911 service? A way to report felonies in progress?

 

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How bad does the Centre Daily Times look having the Harrisburg Patriot News investigate and break this as it happens literally in their backyard? This won't help their reputation as a PSU cheerleader paper for sure.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

I agree with everything you say, but life isn't always black and white.

If I saw one of my former coaches buggering a kid? I'd probably need some serious therapy after that.

 

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The fact that anyone who witnessed or even knew about this and did not go to the cops is complete bull shit.

There was never a time to think "how will this affect my career". The GA is a shitbird for not calling the cops, as is Paterno.

It baffles me that anyone is trying to mitigate this in any way.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Hi wicked

I disagree. In this case it is black and white. The only concern should have been for the kid who was getting raped by an old man.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

The graduate assistant certainly could have done better. In fact, that's not putting it strongly enough. He should have done better when he realized nothing was being done. It takes a lot of courage to take on an institution, and I imagine he knew how difficult it was going to be, and it likely would have ended his coaching career if he went to the police and told them his superiors did nothing when he spoke to them about what happened. That's a choice he made, and he will have to live with that shame, especially if it comes out more kids were molested after the fact.

But Paterno has no excuses, other than ego and age. He's is the goddamn institution. There isn''t anyone he needed to take on here. He did the bare minimum, and that's proof that all the talk about Penn State's integrity and character was just a fucking slogan. He's Don Draper at age 83, selling a product. A fantasy. He needs to be held to a much higher standard here. He failed, and only a fanboi can rationalize otherwise.

 

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Let's be clear here: A man witnessed another man anally raping a young boy. That's what the grand jury report says for those of you that haven't read it. He didn't stop it. Of course McQueary is in the wrong.

All this stuff about chain-of-command is preposterous. Just preposterous. Anyone at Penn State who was informed of this act and didn't go to the police should be fired. Immediately. They knew a criminal had raped a 10-year-old boy. They knew it. And they did nothing to help that boy.

There are some real problems with you if you can't understand that this has nothing to do with chain of command and reporting to your supervisor.

 

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To be clear here:
McQueary gets a pass - even though he witnessed the alleged actual crime - because he was 28-year-old GA? 28. That's not a kid. Don't be folled by the G-A title. 28 is 28.
Paterno is a ever-reaching dictator for life who despite "immediately" notifing the higher ups of McQueary's allegations - the same higher ups who waited a week and a half to interview McQueary - is being roasted here for failing to call the cops on what bascially amounts to second-hand allegation (i.e. Paterno's relaying McQueary's accusations to police)? Really?

There are a lot of links in this chain. And sorry, but Paterno is one of the stronger ones, for reasons I have already listed.
It appears to me a lot of you are waaaay too focused on Paterno and trying to link him to this shit and coverup. You don't want to go after McQueary fine? But I really, really, really, don't see where Paterno has anywhere close the same culpability as the others ...

And I'm the guy who's lost perspective here?

 

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Somebody asked where the outrage was toward the grad assistant, but we have seen that, too. Sure, we see more toward Paterno. He is the true authority figure here. He is the one who had the power to make sure something was done once it became clear that Curley was going to sit on the information (assuming it wasn't Paterno who ordered him to do that in the first place).

That said, Jim_Carty is right. McQueary should have stopped it. Even a nice, loud, "What the fuck is going on here?!" should have been enough.

I can't believe anybody is making excuses for either of them.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Thank you for doing a much better job putting into words what I've been trying to say.

I never said the GA (still not confirmed to be McQueary) was right, FWIW.