Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

This is where I disagree.
Paterno DID NOT WITNESS anything. How does it look if he calls the cops? Without notifiying his bosses? Yeah, when it comes to crimes he has bosses.
He had to report an allegation and report it to his superiors. Not the cops. No one calls the cops based on second-hand info without running things up the chain of command. To think otherwise is not reality based.

When the cops and investigators show up on campus based on a call from Paterno without anyone else knowing what is going on? .. shit meet fan .. And what happens if it turns out to be false? Not that I beleive that to be the case.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Are you really trying to assign different levels of culpability here?

If someone told you that they just saw a 10 year old being raped by an old man in your work place do you really mean that you would do nothing with the information except tell your boss?

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Bull shit. Someone tells me they just saw someone getting raped I am calling the cops and asking why the person who just told me did not call them as well.

Shitbirds all around.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Because Paterno is the leader of the whole goddamn place, dude. He's the man who has literally no one to fear by doing the right thing. He absolutely should be held to a higher standard. If he's not held to a higher standard, then everything he's said over the years might as well be a lie. It's absurd you can't see that. You can't have it both ways with him. Either he's a man of ultimate integrity who built something with his bare hands and is everything that's right with college sports, or he bought into his own myth a long time ago, tuned out, and his program covered up the rape of a child to protect his legacy.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

The second Paterno said anything other than "kid, get in the car, we're going to the police station," he's as responsible as anybody, IMO.

 

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And if you're that worried about "chain of command," call the AD on the way to the station. But let's not kid ourselves, the chain of command doesn't in any way apply to Joe Effing Paterno.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Ultimate intergrity? Now who's unrealistic?
No man. No coach is a man of ultimate intergrity.
I love Penn State football, but I have never put JoePa on the pedestal you seems to have on.
In the late 1970s PSU was placed on probation for violations. They have had how many recruits and players chagred with crimes? You really seem to think he is either a diety or a demon? Sorry, he's neither. No one is.

He's not ther leader of the whole place. He's a football coach. A powerful football coach at Happy Valley, but an old football coach on the sunset of his career. He's the not the president and not the AD.

Paterno did the right thing.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

I have no doubt about this.

However, you have to intervene.

At the very least, he could have rattled a few lockers or let out a loud cough to let Sandusky know someone was there.

But, let's be clear about a few things:

This was not some dark alley, where an unknown -- and possibly armed -- assailant was committing a crime. McQueary would not have been butting his own life at risk by intervening.

Sandusky was known to him. It was the PSU locker room, which is presumably well lit. Sandusky was naked and clearly not armed.

If he'd wanted to, McQueary likely could have separated Sandusky's head from his body.

This also wasn't a case where McQueary could have been uncertain to what he was witnessing. There could be no question that what he saw was consensual. The victim was approximately 10-years-old.

There was also no question he might have been looking at something innocent, and gotten the wrong idea.

This act can't be mistaken for something innocent.

McQueary should have grabbed Sandusky by the neck with one hand while dialing 911 with the other.

He certainly could have done better than calling his dad, and waiting 24-hours to report it to -- Joe Paterno.

Nearly 50 years after the murder of Kitty Genovese, and we're still excusing inaction.

This was not some case of Herman Cain acting inappropriately, where you go to HR, and might fear for your own job due to retribution. This was the rape of a child.

And any talk of "rules" about how a school should handle this is B.S. too. Sandusky was not McQueary's co-worker or an employee of the University at the time. The child victim was not a PSU student, or entrusted to the school or McQueary. So, to say that reporting it up the chain of command -- the next day -- is all that is necessary, is a joke.

He witnessed a crime, in progress. He could have stopped it. He could have prevented further predatory activity that went on for 9 additional years.

Yeah, I bet it weighs on him.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Joe Paterno: Won a lot of football games. Got a lot of little boys fucked in the ass. That's his epitaph.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Lets also keep in mind that Joe was notorious throughout the...decades...for being very hands on with that football program. He knew which kids needed to stay in Happy Valley for the summer because he knew they'd go home and possibly get in trouble with their homies. So, you know which third-string linebackers can stay and go for the summer but don't have any inkling what an assistant you have known and been friends with for over 30 years up to? You can't have it both ways.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

This is so utterly and completely embarrassing. I truly feel bad for how warped your priorities are.