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Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by linotype, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    I was referring to Peter Pan land you dumbass! Never Never Land.

    You know second star the right and straight on 'til morning.
     
  2. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    Speaking of the Catholic Church, this shit just writes itself. Among the several thousand buildings in State College sporting the name of a Paterno is......a Catholic Student Faith Center.

    http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/sue-paterno-has-legacy-of-her-own-bishop-tells-penn-state-audience-512433/

    Among the passages and Joe Pa quotes contained therein:

    "We've got a job ahead of us."

    [His wife] says to me: 'How do I say no?'" Joe Paterno said. "I say to her: 'Well, can you pronounce' their names?'"

    On a more somber note, Joe Paterno said that the family "is very proud of what she has done.

    "I've done nothing, actually," he went on. " ... She reaches out ... to anybody who needs help."


    But it was her husband who said he needed prayerful support on Tuesday. He left the groundbreaking ceremony early so that he could prepare for football press conferences later in the day, he said.

    "I've got to go home and prepare my lies," Joe Paterno said.
     
  3. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    Don't care. There were about 14 billion better phrases you could have used. It does not surprise me at all that you chose no. 14,000,000,001.
     
  4. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    The finishing line from the second story, truer words might never have been written:
     
  5. Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    Consider this ...
    List all the people involved in the situation:

    McQueary
    The Kid's dad
    Sandusky
    Paterno
    Curley
    Shultz

    Of all these which is the least culpable?

    McQueary and the kid's dad? No. McQueary saw what it happen and failed to stop it. He went to the kid's dad and they opted not to call police but to go to coach Paterno.
    BTW: This incident happended in 2002. Sandusky retired in 1999. He was NOT under Paterno's control or protection, depending on your POV.
    Sandusky: Well .. we know WTF he did.
    Curley and Shultz: indicted for failure to report and attempting to mislead a grand jury. Failed to handle the situation on pretty much all accounts.
    Paterno: Was contacted by McQueary and notified his bosses.
    Ok so it took 24 hours ...Maybe becasuse he was trying to figure out why they were coming to him? Why didn't they stop it? Why didn't they call the police? Paterno might have spent a few hours trying to do some homework here? The facxt they came to him instead of the cops or someone else had to be a red flag and cause for pause.
    But he sure didn't stall. And was hasn't been charged and will not be charged with anything.

    You want to implicate Paterno for wrong-doing? OK but he's pretty far down the list as far as culpability in this situation goes.
    He's the only one IMO who did the anything even close to the right thing in this situation.
     
  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation



    Terrible.
     
  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    McQueary's actions were questionable at best, but he was dealing from a position of relative insignificance and vulnerability. One bad word from JoePa and he'd be washing cars the rest of his life

    Paterno is the colossus of Happy Valley. Everybody who draws breath in the football building does so on his approval. He doesn't have to worry about any chain of command. He goes above and beyond all chains of command.

    As soon as he got credible evidence that Sandusky was continuing to engage in questionable behavior regarding children after the 1998 incident, Paterno should have gone straight to the cops (and the higher up on THAT food chain the better, too -- if I were him I would have called either the AG or the director of the state police).

    Of course if you really buy into Paterno's image as a saintly character-building grandfather figure, he should have done that the very first instant he heard ANY allegations of such conduct. Zero Tolerance.

    But even if you want to regard Paterno as a stubborn old egotistical megalomaniac perfectly willing to subordinate the welfare of the whole university to his own selfish whims, he should have realized the very split-second he got reports of Sandusky's repeated behavior, "My old buddy Jerry is a sick fucker. He likes to fuck little boys and he keeps on doing it even after getting caught. He keeps on doing it, which means sooner or later it is all going to come out, and when it does, I and the whole program and legacy I have spent 50 years building will all go down in a shit-storm for the ages," and at that point, very calmly, coolly and collectedly dropped a rope around Sandusky's neck and a bag over his head, tied the rope around his bumper, and driven straight to the nearest police station.
     
  8. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    I'd like to know if any Penn State staffers had reservations about having their own kids around Sandusky.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    I don't understand why you're so intent on "ranking" culpability.

    Paterno may be getting more attention than the others. That's because he's the most famous of them all, because he's an "institution" who's been there for decades, and because he's supposed to represent all that is good about collegiate athletics.

    The attention on Paterno should not lead anyone to conclude others are not also culpable.

    There's also no reason for you to be contrarian and defend him just because folks are focusing on him.
     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    My guess is McQueary will eventually be cited for "failure to report" which is a misdemeanor -- he'll get a short suspended sentence and a small fine.

    The prosecutors will want to deliver the message that in fact everybody -- from the peon GA up to Supreme Emperor Paterno -- does have a responsibility to report such incidents to the law.

    Not your to shift manager, not to your building manager, not to your boss, not to your dad. To the law.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    See that part in bold? Yeah, stop right there. Because that is abundantly clear in every post you have made on this thread.

    Seems like you are at least backtracking a bit from "Paterno did the right thing" to "Paterno is less culpable than these other guys."

    Should Paterno have gone to the cops? Or child services? Absolutely. But to just tell Curley, a day later, and let it drop? With the power he has at that university? Fucking disgraceful.
     
  12. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

    Penn State Creamery might want to remove "Sandusky Blitz" from its product line, a ice cream which includes ( not kidding) bananas and nuts.

    http://creamery.psu.edu/products/food/sandusky-blitz
     
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