Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

I have not read all 100 pages of the tread, just parts.

And in an unrelated note when I reread the McCallum article in 1999 I found it interesting that he and Paterno did not seem close. He basically said he did not particularly like Paterno, which I guess is a pretty commen phenomena. I got the impression that he was retiring because he realized he was not going to get the HC job, was tired of Paterno and because he had been there 30 years. it is a rarity that a college coach stays around long enough to get a really good pension. But if he was covered by the Penn State employees retirement system he could probably get a pretty decent portion of his salary with 30 years of service at age 55.

But in this thread I read that he could keep an office in 2002 because it was part of his retirement agreement. I have never heard of a government employee negotiating like this at retirement. You apply for your pension and off you go.

Now about this time Fran Gartner got pushed out as OC. But the defense at Penn State was fine. I don't think Sandusky was pushed out for performance. So why did the school feel they had to negotiate a settlement with Sandusky?

I think there is one obvious answer. And maybe that is all the school felt they could do because no charges had been filed in the 1998 incident. I think that is weak response. Sandusky was not going to sue the school.

But I think that proves that Paterno and the AD knew something was amiss. So when McQuery went to Paterno JoePa knew Jerry had a history.

And I think that the reason McQuery has not been fired is that he is a witness. I think that at this point Penn State can not do anything that injures any witness against Sandusky, because the potential legal liability would be huge. McQuery is not a hero but Penn State can not add to their already abundant legal exposure at this stage.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

It's very common for faculty emeriti to retain privileges on campus, including an office.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Let's use deductive logic. It says to us that the most plausible explanation of Sandusky's departure is that Paterno and the school were aware of incidents of creepy but not perhaps (in their minds) illegal conduct by Sandusky. So they eased him out, but just in case they were mistaken and he was innocent, took it no further and allowed him to trade on the Penn State name. Then 2002 happens, and it's "oops. We're on the hook for reals now. Better to act as if this is the last time all over again."
It occurs to me that Penn State's (and especially Paterno's) delusional self-image as the exemplar of big football virtue made it easier for the program to dabble in pure evil. At Miami (used as random example only), maybe somebody who's in college football for what they can get would've said "we have to do something because this is bad for business!"

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Dedicated office space would be exceedingly rare. Voting privileges, an email address, library access, invites to functions and the like, yes. Your own office, almost never.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Unless you dedicated a book to the murderer of the University's Cahirman of the Board, the things doc mentions are routine:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-09-24/news/ct-met-ayers-denied-emeritus-20100923_1_emeritus-status-university-of-illinois-trustees-robert-f-kennedy

So, why'd he keep an office? He was apparently also a Phys Ed. teacher, but that shouldn't have made a difference.

Was it because his charity was so integrated into the program? Was it because he was expected to continue recruiting on an informal basis? Or, was it a payoff?

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Wonder if anyone else saw this, a pretty distrubing letter to the editor at the CDT:

Paterno was a bully and control freak. He picked on the staff members and banished gifted players who did not buy into his persona. He seemed a master spin doctor whose image shed a far greater shadow than his actual character.

In addition to power and control dynamics among the staff and Paterno’s powerful presence in the community, a crazy tradition at Penn State was the coaches showered together after each practice and game. We never did this at Brown or at the University of Rhode Island, and my coaching friends never experienced this on their staffs.

http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/12/2983611/steps-can-be-taken-toward-happiness.html

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

What. The. Fuck.

I am now fully accepting of DD's vampire explanation.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

"crazy" is probably not the word I would use.

"bizarre" . . . much better.

You can take it from there.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Many/most locker rooms I've been in, the shower was just one big room with a bunch of spigots on the wall. So, I'm not sure what "showered together" means.

In the most benign meaning, I once showered "with" Bob Feller and one of my sales directors after an event we did at Jacob's Field.

I guess, you could ask if a coach "needs" a shower after a game or practice, but I would guess they might.

Now, if they're soaping each other up, that's a different story.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

I kind of take exception to calling Paterno a bully and a control freak, because, honestly, of the number of high school, college and few pro head coaches I've encountered in every sport, I would describe about 90% of them as "bullies and control freaks."

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

What's weird too, and older members will remember this, but at old school Athletic Clubs, back when they were all male, it was traditional for folks to swim nude in the pool.

Back then, I don't think anyone gave it much thought.

Now, it would seem outrageous.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE* Paterno Fired

Well the author is a former player & coach. I'm guessing he's applying a different standard.

If he's saying that even compared to his colleagues, Paterno was a bully & control freak, then you can take it for what its worth.