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Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by linotype, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    What sayeth the kittehs?
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I'd be crazy to get back into this. You all do what you do.
     
  3. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    The waitresses are all hot and wet!
     
  4. Meatie Pie

    Meatie Pie Member

    Any actual Penn State graduates still around here?

    You know, people with actual interest in the fortunes of the entire athletic program and the university itself, not just the bread and circuses that inflame the masses each fall Saturday.

    Interested in their thoughts.
     
  5. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Corbett, attempting to boost his candidacy for Dipshit Douchebag of the Year, now muses that, in his refined and informed legal opinion, Paterno should not have been fired in 2011.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11834352/joe-paterno-wrongly-fired-pennsylvania-governor-tom-corbett-says

    This of course after sandbagging and roadblocking the investigation of Sandusky in his role as state AG.

    Corbett, of course, could have taken the bull by the horns and fixed it himself many years before by ordering Sandusky to be dragged to prison shackled in neck irons, and who knows, possibly even have saved Paterno's ass (or maybe a bit of his legacy) in the process.

    Good to know he considers aggravated child rape taking place over the course of many years as 'something not very good.'

    Oh Tommy Boy, how'd that all work out for you at the ballot box, cocksmoker?
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    He's a beauty, isn't he. No wonder he was the only Republican governor to get demolished. Crap like that pisses off everybody,
     
  7. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Well, ya know, if Joe shouldn't have been fired he could have done something about it considering the governor sits on the Board of Trustees.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]

    Hummina hummina hummina.
     
  9. TeamBud

    TeamBud Member

    Well, at least one of us is still here. I can give you my thoughts but I don't know if that's the same for all alumni. As always, you (general "you," not specifically you, Meatie Pie) are free to call me a fanboi, apologist, pedophile supporter, or whatever makes you feel you've properly shown your outrage.

    I'm happy that a more reasonable view is being taken of what happened. This was never a football culture problem at Penn State. Part of Paterno's legacy was that he emphasized the "student" part of "student-athlete" more than at most major universities and a lot of the reason alumni have been on the defensive through this whole situation is the attack on this ideal of his. This was always a criminal problem and should've been handled as such. Suggesting that the university and the people of Central PA were willing to look the other way and allow a child predator to continue because of football was insane. We all hate what Sandusky did and feel bad for the kids and want to help them however we can. That's separate from the fact that we disagree with who and what is being blamed for his activities.

    I blame the media a lot for making this a Paterno problem right away even though he handled the situation correctly. In fact, the NCAA guidelines that came out a couple months ago say to do exactly what he did - follow reporting protocol and cooperate but do not manage, direct, control, or interfere with investigations. Unless Paterno interfered, he did just what they say he should do but I think the media wanted a big name to get more attention so they focused on Paterno instead of Sandusky. Hopefully his reputation can be partially restored. The wins should be restored, the statue should go back up, and hopefully someday we'll be playing on Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium. He earned those honors and I haven't seen anything yet that shows they should be taken away.

    I'm hoping that the trials of Schultz/Spanier/Curley will shed some light over why they didn't get the police involved. Did someone order it? Did they just think they could get him to stop by themselves? Did they think reporting it to Second Mile was enough and that it would be handled by them? Did they just not know what to do? Obviously, if the answer is that Paterno ordered them to cover it up, anything I said above about restoring his legacy can be ignored. But I think he did what he thought was right and then left it to be handled by the people who were supposed to deal with those kinds of things. What their motivations were remains to be seen.

    I'm glad a lot of the Trustees that supported firing Paterno have been voted out. I'm glad Corbett got voted out. I'd like more investigation into their motives, too. Were they just trying to quell the outrage by overreacting and accepting any punishments that were thrown out there or were they trying to avoid deeper investigation into their involvement?

    I don't blame the NCAA so much for bluffing PSU into the sanctions. I think the NCAA way overstepped their bounds and should've realized that it was not an "athletics" problem at all and should've stayed out of it but if the media and public were demanding they do something, then this made sense. I wish more time was given to analyze the Freeh Report because it seems to make a lot of leaps to get to what looks like its desired conclusion. But it happens all the time in cop shows - if you think you have the guilty party, you bluff or lie or do whatever you can to get them to accept a plea deal and save the time and effort of a fuller investigation.

    So there. That should be enough fodder for some of you guys. And as long as I'm getting back into it, I'd like to add a special "FUCK YOU, Starman" for this incredibly stupid and offensive comment:

     
  10. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Oh really. Come up with another theory that makes any sense, then.




    I have already posted this probably a dozen times or more, but:

    Say you are Joe Paterno in the late 90s/early 00s.

    You are in your early-mid 70s capping off a 40+year career as one of the greatest coaches in college football history.

    Your reputation has been built on honesty, integrity, morality, respect, etc etc. For several decades you have been frequently cited as one of the leading coaches parents would want their sons to play for.

    At some point you come into reasonably credible information for the very first time that one of your longest-serving assistants is involved with sexual predation of young children. Perhaps a stray report or two crosses your desk, and hoping against hope you dismiss it. But eventually you are presented with firm evidence. (Maybe not 'firm' as in 'good enough for conviction in court,' but certainly 'firm' as in, 'I'm Joe Paterno and I want to know what the hell is going on around here.')

    Knowing what release of this information could do to your program, what is your response?


    Paterno's actions are so unbelievable as to clearly indicate Sandusky must have had some extremely powerful source of leverage against Paterno -- at least Paterno believed he did.

    Remember, Paterno was one of the most powerful people in the state at the time. If he had wanted Sandusky sunk in Lake Erie with his feet in concrete buckets, all he had to do was say the word.

    Laugh if you will, but if he had done that -- and gotten caught -- his reputation now would be about 5000% better than it is.
     
  11. TeamBud

    TeamBud Member

    Anything from "He expected the people to whom he turned it over to do something" to "He didn't care" to "Alzheimer's" to "Pressure from the Mob" to "He was flashy-thingied by MIB agents and his memories were erased" makes more sense. That was easy.
     
  12. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    This thread is rising from the dead!
    Previous 50 pages a fascinating study in crisis response.
     
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