Penn State AD charged with perjury -- UPDATE 2 Sandusky Arrested Again

Jim_Carty · Nov 8, 2011

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Victim's mom's speak out. Sara Ganim is doing some terrific work about a horrific situation:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mothers_of_two_of_jerry_sandus.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Johnny Dangerously · Nov 8, 2011

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What time is the alleged presser?

imjustagirl · Nov 8, 2011

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BYH said:

93Devil said:

And here is quote from Cope...

I particularly irritated Penn Staters by accusing Joe [Paterno] of excessive piety. You see, for many years he seemed bent upon casting Penn State as an academic facsimile of Harvard and his football players as model citizens (when in fact some of them told me they received the benefits of rural isolation—no major newspaper there to snoop—and a friendly police force).

When I was at Arizona State there was a baseball coach named Dub Kilgo who liked to go around and flash people or steal women's panties or some sort of shit like that.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-09-22/sports/9203260366_1_burglary-kilgo-arrested

I found out after he was arrested that the university and even local writers pretty much were in on the secret. This is not as big, obviously, but it shows that there are friendly police forces in many other places other than State College.

This is not news. Dog bites man.
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I'm with you--nothing about Paterno and this case, not even the unmentionable, would surprise me at this point. But it's a stretch to believe Cope knew THIS, or something even worse than THIS, was going on when he wrote the above graph. My guess is he just saw a program that was as immoral than any other D-I program when it came to recruiting bad kids, breaking the rules and doing shit that gets the Cleveland States of the world punished, yet got away with it all thanks to its remote location and a sycophant local press and police force.
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WTF IS WRONG WITH BOTH OF YOU?

That quote is not related to Sandusky, or child rape, or anything else. It's just saying that it's easier when your school is big shit and more remote to push things under the rug. Ohio State also gets stuff swept under the rug. Miami. Duke. Duh. No one's saying they're not.

But they took THAT QUOTE and moved on from it. They didn't say Cope knew about Sandusky. Never even HINTED at it. It was an entry point to a post in which they asked for dirt on PSU. It's a lead-in. It's a hook.

Jesus Christ.

Oh, and 93D? Way to amp it up with the "no personal attack" of "Go. Fuck. Yourself." Stay classy. But I'm sure it will stay on the board, as all of your posts do.

Captain_Kirk · Nov 8, 2011

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YankeeFan said:

Captain_Kirk said:

Please with the 'uncomfortableness' of the conversation--that's a stretch beyond comprehension. Some of you have been in locker rooms before, right? Well, Joe's been in them for what, 60 years? I'm sure he's heard enough to make an aircraft carrier of sailors blush. McCreary, too.

And all that had to be said was Sandusky, shower, little boy, and that should have spurred action--if people were interested in all that is right, and not all that is Penn State.
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Oh, 100%. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
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I hear you. Was really responding to a couple posts above yours.

BYH · Nov 8, 2011

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Settle down Beavis IJAG. I'm in agreement with you. I never insinuated otherwise.

MrHavercamp · Nov 8, 2011

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TeamBud said:

I went to Penn State. Graduated in the early '80s. I've been reading this for three days and it's really sickening and depressing that this could've happened there. I've always been proud of the school and liked and respected Paterno. How he showed such horrible judgment here is beyond me. I can only hope it's because McQueary didn't explain well what he saw and Paterno treated it as an unfounded rumor that needed to be looked into. I'm sure that's just wishful thinking and the truth will come out soon.

That said, I still think Paterno had the least responsibility in this chain of people. McQueary and his dad - who knew of something as it was happening - are the worst. How do you see this and just walk away, leaving the kid behind?

The AD or President or HR rep - who are supposed to handle these things - are the next in line. Where I work, we're trained yearly in what to do when we see security/harassment/violence problems - report it to HR or whoever unless it's an immediate problem. If Paterno knew about it as it was happening, of course he should've done what McQueary should've done - call 911. After the fact, you report it and let it be investigated by the people who are supposed to know what to do and who to go to.

I have no idea how Sandusky could've been allowed anywhere on campus after that though. Even if you think it's a rumor, you either don't let him on campus or you make sure he's supervised at all times. That he was there for years afterward, and still in the company of kids, is unfathomable. Unless he was investigated and cleared, how do they let him back?

Some of you are being ridiculous though. "... old fuck...", "doddering old man", "shitbag of the highest order", "old geezer piece of shit". Some of you obviously didn't like Paterno to begin with. There are people at large companies whose job it is to handle these things. Those people were told and mishandled it. Paterno wasn't the witness and wasn't told when it was happening so he told the people who are supposed to go to the police. If the crime isn't occurring right then, you delegate it to those whose job it is to go to the authorities. He should've followed up when he still saw Sandusky around afterward but he's not the main problem here - just the easiest to attack.

I have no idea how some of you have such vitriol for Paterno while sympathizing with McQueary. He walked away from a 10-year-old being raped. And waited a day to report it. To someone other than the police. He's the one I'm wondering about on Saturday - will he be on the sideline? I'm sure Paterno will be in the booth. I'll cheer for the football team on Saturday. That's not the same as cheering for Paterno or the President or anyone except the football players. Sorry if you interpret it otherwise.
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The Penn State/JoePa alum apologists are as pathetic as the people who run this school. Yes, let's throw only the GA under the bus and give coaching legend a pass. And Paterno deserves to be called every name he's being called. He's gutless because he cared more about preserving his legacy from scandal than protecting innocent little boys.

BYH · Nov 8, 2011

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P.S.: Will this presser be on TV? Please say yes.

imjustagirl · Nov 8, 2011

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BYH: You said "i'm with you" when 93Devil was posting the same shit he said above. So no, you're not with me.

Posted this on FB. THIS is how you do a front page.

Harrisburg has been getting a lot of love, and rightfully so. Here's an example why:

http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=PA_PN&ref_pge=lst

Boom_70 · Nov 8, 2011

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I didn't know that Mary Carillo was an attorney.

TigerVols · Nov 8, 2011

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Boom_70 said:

I didn't know that Mary Carillo was an attorney.
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You didn't? They usually mention it a few times every broadcast.

FileNotFound · Nov 8, 2011

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Joe Paterno is not a man of honor. Neither are most of the other people in authority positions who knew about this and did nothing. But Paterno -- more than anybody else -- had the power in his hands to get Sandusky locked up and/or make sure he got the help he needed to not violate young children. He didn't do it. Because he didn't do it, more young children were violated. He does not deserve to be on a football field ever again for as long as he lives. And don't feed me any shit about how he was protecting Pennsylvania State University. Maybe that was an ancillary benefit, but he was protecting the brand name of Coach Joe Paterno first and foremost. No honor.

The men currently playing football for Penn State do not deserve to be punished. They had nothing to do with this. They should be allowed to play their games and hear their cheers and enjoy whatever privilege is afforded to Division I football players.

But Paterno and everybody who *is* involved in this case needs to quit pretending like they can go on like nothing ever happened and they need to go away, NOW, and show back up only when they are summoned to appear before a judge.

The only thing I want to hear at this press conference from Paterno is, "I resign, effective immediately." Four words and GTFO. Anything other than that is industrial-grade bullshit and needs to be treated as such.

YankeeFan · Nov 8, 2011

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imjustagirl said:

Posted this on FB. THIS is how you do a front page.

Harrisburg has been getting a lot of love, and rightfully so. Here's an example why:

http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=PA_PN&ref_pge=lst
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Wow. The Front Page Editorial is not a well you can go to often, but this case warrants it, and they delivered.

My only quibble is calling for this to be Paterno's last season. He should be cleaning out his desk right now.

To allow him to finish out the season is to let him walk away with some dignity, and "on his own terms", since it would be termed a retirement.

It would be protecting him, the program, and the University.

None of it is deserved. Joe should go right now.

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