Penn State AD charged with perjury -- UPDATE 2 Sandusky Arrested Again

Boom_70 · Nov 8, 2011

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The Parterno's are starting to make the Kardasians look good.

Clerk Typist · Nov 8, 2011

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bigpern23 said:

My guess is that if Scott Paterno is trying to set up a press conference, and going outside the school's communications department to do it, it's because Joe is already the former head coach at Penn State University.
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Gotta be this. Make Saturday the farewell and go out the door.

MrHavercamp · Nov 8, 2011

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Double Down said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

So Paterno wants to answer media questions and his kid is an idiot for setting it up?
You guys demand answers, he's prepared to give them ... For fucksakes DD.

Do you really think the Paternos give a damn about the school's potential liability in a sex-scandal of this magnitude? Esp. if he feels he is being unjustly crucified for his role in this scandal?
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You're confusing a lot of issues here, which isn't surprising, because you're in no way objective or capable of making an argument detached from your love of PSU football, and you've proven that repeatedly on this thread. My desire (and the media's desire) for answers is very different that the University's potential liability if they let a 84-year-old man stand on the lawn somewhere and answer questions that could, and will, eventually become part of a court record.

I'm all for letting Joe Paterno, with his cloudy mind and his defiant attitude, dig an even deeper hole. I suspect if this happens, he will essentially be dousing his flaming legacy with kerosene, and the image most people will remember will not be the 1987 Fiesta Bowl, but one of an angry old man shouting at Gregg Doyel from someone's lawn.

But by all means, let's make it happen. Just realize in an effort to save his old man, the son is going to make it much worse for him, and increase the school's potential liability in a civil lawsuit tenfold. If the PSU was a private school, I'd push Paterno in front of the cameras myself. But the taxpayers in the state of Pennsylvania have, economically, benefited tremendously from Paterno, and if this happens, they will be handing back some of that money to cover the cost of his stubborn arrogance.
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Very well-stated. But you're still not going to convince the JoePa apologists on this board of anything. Like Joe, all they care about is 409, the Nebraska game (!) and his legacy. Forget those poor children who were abused in his locker room.

But at this point, I'm guessing there's no way Penn State will let him take the field Saturday. I believe the smart people at the school and across the state of Pennsylvania are finally figuring out that he no longer should be in charge and the quicker they can cut ties, the better off they will be.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Nov 8, 2011

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Double Down said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

So Paterno wants to answer media questions and his kid is an idiot for setting it up?
You guys demand answers, he's prepared to give them ... For fucksakes DD.

Do you really think the Paternos give a damn about the school's potential liability in a sex-scandal of this magnitude? Esp. if he feels he is being unjustly crucified for his role in this scandal?
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You're confusing a lot of issues here, which isn't surprising, because you're in no way objective or capable of making an argument detached from your love of PSU football, and you've proven that repeatedly on this thread. My desire (and the media's desire) for answers is very different that the University's potential liability if they let a 84-year-old man stand on the lawn somewhere and answer questions that could, and will, eventually become part of a court record.

I'm all for letting Joe Paterno, with his cloudy mind and his defiant attitude, dig an even deeper hole. I suspect if this happens, he will essentially be dousing his flaming legacy with kerosene, and the image most people will remember will not be the 1987 Fiesta Bowl, but one of an angry old man shouting at Gregg Doyel from someone's lawn.

But by all means, let's make it happen. Just realize in an effort to save his old man, the son is going to make it much worse for him, and increase the school's potential liability in a civil lawsuit tenfold. If the PSU was a private school, I'd push Paterno in front of the cameras myself. But the taxpayers in the state of Pennsylvania have, economically, benefited tremendously from Paterno, and if this happens, they will be handing back some of that money to cover the cost of his stubborn arrogance.
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Paterno's career is over. His reputation is all that's left.
If he think's he innocent of wrong doing, he should speak and clear the air.

You think I'm not objective fine? But I'm a hell of lot closer to reality than 90 percent of the tinfoil hat brigade chiming in on this thread. And it's not even close.
My arguments are at least ground in some facts - like the fact Paterno has not and will not be charged, accroding to Att. Gen. - but that hasn't stopped the mob here.

Carry on. I'll see if I can scrounge up some more tinfoil for ya'll at the Food Genie.

goalmouth · Nov 8, 2011

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Sure to be named in future lawsuits, Paterno has held his last presser.

Dick Whitman · Nov 8, 2011

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Happiest man on the planet about this story: Herman Cain.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Nov 8, 2011

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MrHavercamp said:

Double Down said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

So Paterno wants to answer media questions and his kid is an idiot for setting it up?
You guys demand answers, he's prepared to give them ... For fucksakes DD.

Do you really think the Paternos give a damn about the school's potential liability in a sex-scandal of this magnitude? Esp. if he feels he is being unjustly crucified for his role in this scandal?
Click to expand...

You're confusing a lot of issues here, which isn't surprising, because you're in no way objective or capable of making an argument detached from your love of PSU football, and you've proven that repeatedly on this thread. My desire (and the media's desire) for answers is very different that the University's potential liability if they let a 84-year-old man stand on the lawn somewhere and answer questions that could, and will, eventually become part of a court record.

I'm all for letting Joe Paterno, with his cloudy mind and his defiant attitude, dig an even deeper hole. I suspect if this happens, he will essentially be dousing his flaming legacy with kerosene, and the image most people will remember will not be the 1987 Fiesta Bowl, but one of an angry old man shouting at Gregg Doyel from someone's lawn.

But by all means, let's make it happen. Just realize in an effort to save his old man, the son is going to make it much worse for him, and increase the school's potential liability in a civil lawsuit tenfold. If the PSU was a private school, I'd push Paterno in front of the cameras myself. But the taxpayers in the state of Pennsylvania have, economically, benefited tremendously from Paterno, and if this happens, they will be handing back some of that money to cover the cost of his stubborn arrogance.
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Very well-stated. But you're still not going to convince the JoePa apologists on this board of anything. Like Joe, all they care about is 409, the Nebraska game (!) and his legacy. Forget those poor children who were abused in his locker room.

But at this point, I'm guessing there's no way Penn State will let him take the field Saturday. I believe the smart people at the school and across the state of Pennsylvania are finally figuring out that he no longer should be in charge and the quicker they can cut ties, the better off they will be.
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And you aren't going to convice the haters JoePa is anything but guilty of a coverup and crime and needs to go. YESTERDAY ...

LongTimeListener · Nov 8, 2011

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Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

MrHavercamp said:

Double Down said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

So Paterno wants to answer media questions and his kid is an idiot for setting it up?
You guys demand answers, he's prepared to give them ... For fucksakes DD.

Do you really think the Paternos give a damn about the school's potential liability in a sex-scandal of this magnitude? Esp. if he feels he is being unjustly crucified for his role in this scandal?
Click to expand...

You're confusing a lot of issues here, which isn't surprising, because you're in no way objective or capable of making an argument detached from your love of PSU football, and you've proven that repeatedly on this thread. My desire (and the media's desire) for answers is very different that the University's potential liability if they let a 84-year-old man stand on the lawn somewhere and answer questions that could, and will, eventually become part of a court record.

I'm all for letting Joe Paterno, with his cloudy mind and his defiant attitude, dig an even deeper hole. I suspect if this happens, he will essentially be dousing his flaming legacy with kerosene, and the image most people will remember will not be the 1987 Fiesta Bowl, but one of an angry old man shouting at Gregg Doyel from someone's lawn.

But by all means, let's make it happen. Just realize in an effort to save his old man, the son is going to make it much worse for him, and increase the school's potential liability in a civil lawsuit tenfold. If the PSU was a private school, I'd push Paterno in front of the cameras myself. But the taxpayers in the state of Pennsylvania have, economically, benefited tremendously from Paterno, and if this happens, they will be handing back some of that money to cover the cost of his stubborn arrogance.
Click to expand...

Very well-stated. But you're still not going to convince the JoePa apologists on this board of anything. Like Joe, all they care about is 409, the Nebraska game (!) and his legacy. Forget those poor children who were abused in his locker room.

But at this point, I'm guessing there's no way Penn State will let him take the field Saturday. I believe the smart people at the school and across the state of Pennsylvania are finally figuring out that he no longer should be in charge and the quicker they can cut ties, the better off they will be.
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And you aren't going to convice the haters JoePa is anything but guilty of a coverup and crime and needs to go. YESTERDAY ...
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"the haters."

I think that sums up your thoughts on this subject.

Bubbler · Nov 8, 2011

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Starman said:

Is Dufresne trying to bait Team Paterno into committing public suicide?

JoePa can hold his own PC whenever he wants, but PSU is going to decaptitate him the second it happens.
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So what? If Paterno feels obligated to speak, let him speak.

There's two conclusions here. A) Paterno is legitimately morally bothered by what happened under his watch and, legal ramifications be damned, he wants to express his sympathy and remorse and answer questions regarding his part in this fiasco.

Or, B) He wants to go down fighting, protecting everyone and everything having to do with the investigation, doing, as DD suggested, flaming himself with kerosene.

C) He legitimately wants to talk about Nebraska!

Whether its A or B, I couldn't give a fuck what the ramifications are for him or Penn State. The public has a right to know as much as is humanly possible about these heinous acts that happened inside a public institution with anyone in a position of authority either doing the bare minimum or shoving it under the rug.

I cannot believe there are people who work in the media who would advocate that Paterno should shut up because Penn State will come down hard on him. Who gives sixty parts of a shit about that? Our job is to provide information and answers. The ramifications of those answers are on Paterno, et al, not us.

Captain_Kirk · Nov 8, 2011

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Double Down said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

So Paterno wants to answer media questions and his kid is an idiot for setting it up?
You guys demand answers, he's prepared to give them ... For fucksakes DD.

Do you really think the Paternos give a damn about the school's potential liability in a sex-scandal of this magnitude? Esp. if he feels he is being unjustly crucified for his role in this scandal?
Click to expand...

You're confusing a lot of issues here, which isn't surprising, because you're in no way objective or capable of making an argument detached from your love of PSU football, and you've proven that repeatedly on this thread. My desire (and the media's desire) for answers is very different that the University's potential liability if they let a 84-year-old man stand on the lawn somewhere and answer questions that could, and will, eventually become part of a court record.

I'm all for letting Joe Paterno, with his cloudy mind and his defiant attitude, dig an even deeper hole. I suspect if this happens, he will essentially be dousing his flaming legacy with kerosene, and the image most people will remember will not be the 1987 Fiesta Bowl, but one of an angry old man shouting at Gregg Doyel from someone's lawn.

But by all means, let's make it happen. Just realize in an effort to save his old man, the son is going to make it much worse for him, and increase the school's potential liability in a civil lawsuit tenfold. If the PSU was a private school, I'd push Paterno in front of the cameras myself. But the taxpayers in the state of Pennsylvania have, economically, benefited tremendously from Paterno, and if this happens, they will be handing back some of that money to cover the cost of his stubborn arrogance.
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Joe Paterno yelled at Gregg Doyel to get off his lawn? I'm having a hard time keeping up right now....

RickStain · Nov 8, 2011

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Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

And you aren't going to convice the haters JoePa is anything but guilty of a coverup and crime and needs to go. YESTERDAY ...
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You forgot to sign that post with "Go PSU!" or something.

Inky_Wretch · Nov 8, 2011

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NYT's Pete Thamel tweeted there will be no off-campus JoePa press conference.

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