Penn State AD charged with perjury -- *UPDATE 2* Sandusky Arrested Again

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

If all you've seen is "a couple snippets from a report" and not the grand jury testimony or the many other detailed articles that have traced this mess, you are intentionally ignoring the information that the rest of us are discussing. That's the source of our disagreement here, that you are keeping yourself away from the facts and then saying "where are the facts?"

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

This ought to be the tipping point for college football. But it won't be.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

If you have a half-hour, as much as I hate Francesa, this was a great Q and A with Kim Jones.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

No, I read all that and it does a good job of describing what Sandusky did. It says very little about what Paterno and the other administrators knew and did. If McQueary gave them all the same facts he gave to the GJ, then I'm with you guys. If he was sparing them the details or trying to protect them and they didn't all know what was going on, it's another matter.

As usual, it's what did they know and when did they know it? I don't think the GJ report does that and I'd like to know. Do you think that Paterno knew all the details that are in that report back when they happened? Did he know just about the incident that was investigated and cleared? These are kind of important questions before you trash the guy's reputation (more than it will be for not knowing what was going on in his facilities).

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

Still nothing from the president of the university.

Best and the brightest

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

I've been listening to WFAN all day and Francesa, with some great reporting from Jones, has done an excellent job on this whole situation.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

I'm listening. This is something else.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

1. Francesca can be an ass on the air, but he can also be an outstanding journalist on the air.
2. Every day Paterno and the university president remain employed is another day where things get worse for Penn State and for any state public officer in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I don't know anything about the Governor, but he's got to have very little sense of self-preservation if he isn't working to see those two are out of their offices ASAP.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

For posters having problems with the wording of the GJ report: Have you read one before this, or even something that should be simple as paperwork in a school board packet describing playground equipment being donated? Or even a police report? They're not the front page lite-and-brite. They tend to be very clinical. And anyone who has spent time around government and/or education can tell you, they tend to make 10 words do the work of five fairly often. Or as I said to the city editor last week after she forwarded me a release about some seminar, "It's been a while since I've translated educator into English."

The NCAA? Maybe if their grades were bad and tats were involved ...

And Matt Millen? He's gonna need to borrow some tears from Nancy Grace shortly. I'm sure many members from Michigan wish he'd been as passionate about the Lions.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation

So you believe Joe Paterno forced Jerry Sandusky to retire in 1998 without any real knowledge of the investigation or any reason to believe horrible things were happening, and you further believe Paterno had no prior knowledge to guide him as he considered what Mike McQueary was telling him in 2002, and you further believe that until last week there was no reason for Paterno to disassociate himself from Sandusky.

Alrighty then. I think we've gone as far as we can go in our discussion.

 

Re: Penn State AD charged with perjury in Sandusky investigation



Those two in the middle stick out like sore thumbs, don't they?